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11-05-2010, 10:18 PM
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It looks like Washington state might be changing some ID requirements.
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Starting next week, if you want a new driver's license and don't have a Social Security number, you'll have to bring proof of state residency.

The change is part of a crackdown on ID scams by the Department of Licensing, which was plagued earlier this year by an alleged crime ring that sold licenses to undocumented immigrants. The ring supposedly included a DOL employee in Bellevue.

Washington currently asks applicants for proof of identity and a Social Security number. If someone doesn't have a Social Security number, the department allows an applicant to declare Washington residency in an affidavit.

As of Nov. 8, those affidavits won't be sufficient. Anyone without an Social Security number will have to show proof of residency, such as a utility bill or car-insurance policy card.

"This is going to go a big step further. It's going to make it much more difficult to engage in fraud at the counter," said Tony Sermonti, a spokesman for the Department of Licensing.

He said the department will verify the documents while issuing applicants a piece of paper that authorizes them to drive for 60 days. That's different from the current temporary license, which looks like the real thing and is generally valid for ID purposes.

"For many of the people that engage in this fraud, this piece of paper would essentially be worthless to them," Sermonti said.

"So we expect that this move will really clamp down on the flow of people coming here to get a Washington license fraudulently."

He said the changes are a continuation of the department's efforts to stop licensing fraud. Sermonti didn't have figures on ID scams, but said the number of people saying they don't have a Social Security number had risen in recent years.

Of the state's 20,000 monthly applications for a new license, about 20 percent have no social security number. "It's a big number, and it's increasing," Sermonti said.

About three weeks ago, the department began applying its facial recognition program to all licenses. That's a program that studies the mathematical proportions of people's faces and flags licenses with similar images.

Previously it was used only for "enhanced" driver's licenses that allow people to travel to Canada and Mexico without a passport.
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11-05-2010, 10:52 PM
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11-06-2010, 12:28 AM
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My father and I are going this December. He is getting his licensed renewed and I am changing my permit to a license. Will we still need a utility bill? We have someone who is willing to help us out and already have our names on the bills.
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11-06-2010, 01:21 AM
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that's only for driver's license, how about for State ID?
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11-06-2010, 02:34 AM
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this was bound to happen too many people going down there in droves.
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11-06-2010, 05:12 AM
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So you don't need to show proof of legal residence in the country? That's great. I live in Texas, and they require you to show legal immigration status.
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11-06-2010, 02:39 PM
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Craaaaap. So now to get a license there we need proof of residency? Is there any other way to do that besides utility bill or car insurance bill?
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11-06-2010, 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Task_1539 View Post
My father and I are going this December. He is getting his licensed renewed and I am changing my permit to a license. Will we still need a utility bill? We have someone who is willing to help us out and already have our names on the bills.
Are your dad's license and your permit from WA? I'm pretty sure if they are, you don't need a utility bill. I've renewed my ID/permit and the rest of my family have renewed their licenses with no problem. You just show the old one and say all the info on there is still the same. They'll take it and hole-punch it and give it back to you. They didn't even ask us for a SSN the second time/third/whatever time (we've lived in WA for a long time )
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11-06-2010, 04:40 PM
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seems that NM licenses also might be revoked now that Martinez won as NM's governor:

http://newmexicoindependent.com/6390...for-immigrants

i really hope they don't.
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CRAAAAAP. I was heading up there this monday (Nov 8th!)..

Should I not even bother anymore? Seeing as how now I need proof of residency...

I wonder if all DMV's are doing this now, or I can just luck out and hit up various DMV's and hope for the best.
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