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Acquiring Citizenship by joining the military

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12-19-2010, 06:48 PM
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For all of you who don't believe its possible, and for everyone who is willing to take the risk. I've posted about this before but not a lot of people think its possible. Just remember it is not guaranteed that you'll get citizenship, you might just get a green card, or you might be put in deportation proceedings. This is the way it works, you need to find a recruiter that is willing to let you enlist while being undocumented, you're not going to lie to the recruiter, but not every recruiter will let you enlist. After your first day of active duty you would be able to apply for citizenship, but USCIS can deny your application, so like I said there are no guarantees.
Here are the sources:
http://www.metroactive.com/metro/09....news-0738.html
http://www.ilw.com/articles/2009,1124-stock.pdf
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12-19-2010, 06:53 PM
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thank you for this
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12-19-2010, 07:16 PM
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You can only get citizenship if you die while serving in the army, if you are undocumented.

Otherwise the law that Bush signed was to only expedite the naturalization process of lawful permanent resident (LPR). The naturalization process normally takes 5 years, but it is reduced when an LPR joins the military.

http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/citizenship.php
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12-19-2010, 07:34 PM
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Sorry, but this is too much of a risk.
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12-19-2010, 08:26 PM
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In reading both those articles I just got the impression that the only way that undocumented people can enlist is if a recruiter is lying to them. All of the other information seemed directly related to people with legal immigration status. The part about the pentagon having the authority to implement the DREAM act military requirements was very interesting - but the article states that the pentagon hasn't chosen to implement that change. Maybe someone (Mr. President ) should pressure the pentagon.
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12-19-2010, 09:22 PM
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if USCIS denies your application, can you leave the army? (sounds wrong but why would you risk your life for a country that doesn't even consider you as a citizen)?
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iNeverHadAChance, if the USCIS denies your application, most likely they will recommend to put you in deportation proceedings.
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Yeah, Ineverhadachance you could leave the army, but if USCIS denies your application, and you leave, you could be court martialed, and I'm pretty sure the army would try to get you deported after you complete your sentence.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by DreamerSD23 View Post
You can only get citizenship if you die while serving in the army, if you are undocumented.

Otherwise the law that Bush signed was to only expedite the naturalization process of lawful permanent resident (LPR). The naturalization process normally takes 5 years, but it is reduced when an LPR joins the military.

http://immigrationroad.com/green-card/citizenship.php
THANK YOU!!!, some of you need to stop believing what is on some news sites and FORGET about a story or 2 you read, every case is different
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THANK YOU!!!, some of you need to stop believing what is on some news sites and FORGET about a story or 2 you read, every case is different
And many of you need to understand my point, I'm not saying that you can join tomorrow at any recruiting station and become a USC in six months. I'm saying there is a possibility. If USCIS denies your application, you could still go before an immigration judge and you might get to stay or you may not. And yes, I agree with you on this Alex, every case is different. Some people might have a better chance of staying if they have legal relatives, speciall skills, etc. etc.
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