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A donde quedo el orgullo Mexicano?

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01-20-2011, 02:17 AM
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Yo reflecciono, y me pongo a pensar. Y en esos momemtos de reflexion me pregunto, ¿A donde se fue la soberania la del cual mi pais Mexico se admira?. Claro que la historia Mexicana es un orgullo, claro que le ganaron Francia, a España, y no pudieron con Estados Unidos porque no peliaron contra ellos.

Pero si realmente Mexico es un orgullo, me gustaria que tambien terminaran con el maldito narcotrafico. ¿A donde esta la libertad de la que gozan, y los soldados que tienen en cada hijo? Me gustaria que realmente se cumpliera el sueño de mi General Pancho Villa. El sueño de la libertad del ciudadano libre, la libertad de los niños, esa libertad presiada por la cual miles de soberanos ciudadanos dieron su vida.

Los Carteles se burlan del gobierno. Ellos se dajan atrapar para el que govierno los proteja. ¿Que pasaria si el pueblo se volviera a rebelar? Si el valor de Mexico esta en sus ciadanos leales a su pueblo. Al igual que mi General Pancho Villa, Yo tambien estoy dispuesto a dar mi vida. Como me gustaria que los niños vovieran a jugar en el parque sin temor alguno, y que se divertieran como solo los niños lo saben hacer.

Si mi secreto se acabo, pues entonces que se haga valer mi vida.¿ Que dice uno de los mejores hipnos nacionales del mundo?

Ese preciado hipno dice asi:

Mexicanos, al grito de guerra
el acero aprestad y el bridón.
Y retiemble en sus centros la Tierra,
al sonoro rugir del cañón.
¡Y retiemble en sus centros la Tierra,
al sonoro rugir del cañón!

Ciña ¡oh Patria! tus sienes de oliva
de la paz el arcángel divino,
que en el cielo tu eterno destino
por el dedo de Dios se escribió.
Mas si osare un extraño enemigo
profanar con su planta tu suelo,
piensa ¡oh Patria querida! que el cielo
un soldado en cada hijo te dio.

¡Guerra, guerra sin tregua al que intente
De la patria manchar los blasones!
¡Guerra, guerra! Los patrios pendones
En las olas de sangre empapad.
¡Guerra, guerra! En el monte, en el valle
Los cañones horrísonos truenen,
Y los ecos sonoros resuenen
Con las voces de ¡Unión! ¡Libertad!

Antes, patria, que inermes tus hijos
Bajo el yugo su cuello dobleguen,
Tus campiñas con sangre se rieguen,
Sobre sangre se estampe su pie.
Y tus templos, palacios y torres
Se derrumben con hórrido estruendo,
Y sus ruinas existan diciendo:
De mil héroes la patria aquí fue.

¡Patria! ¡Patria! Tus hijos te juran
Exhalar en tus aras su aliento,
Si el clarín con su bélico acento
los convoca a lidiar con valor.
¡Para ti las guirnaldas de oliva!
¡Un recuerdo para ellos de gloria!
¡Un laurel para ti de victoria!
¡Un sepulcro para ellos de honor!

Si los narcos ya no quieren pedo, entonces que se dejen de sus pinches mamadas. En vez de hacer sus pendejadas, porque no se ponen a trabajar, y que usen todo su pinche dinero bañado en sangre, para crear industrias y empleos.

Porque si realmente el govierno de Mexico se hace valer, entonces que cambien la ley, y que le den a entender a sus ciudadanos, que no se pueden estar cometiendo fechorias y atrofios, a sus mismos compratiotas.

Yo prefiero morir como un heroe reconosido mundialmente, a que vivir como un cobarde. Y que viva Mexico cabrones!!!!!
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Don't know what it says or means, but Amen brother. WE are all a big family
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^^^ LOL

When I watch TV shows from Mexico I also wondered why a lot of Mexicans are ashamed of being brown. Almost every single protagonist and anchor is Caucasian or of some European descent. Being white is put on such a high pedestal that it definitely does NOT deserve.
As for the narcos, They're never gonna go away! As long as the USA has a demand for drugs and the drug business remains lucrative, there will be narcos. As a matter of fact, the president of Mexico should ALLOW drug cultivation in Chipas and Oaxaca. It would be great if Mexico legalized and sold all drugs.
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^^^ LOL

When I watch TV shows from Mexico I also wondered why a lot of Mexicans are ashamed of being brown. Almost every single protagonist and anchor is Caucasian or of some European descent. Being white is put on such a high pedestal that it definitely does NOT deserve.
As for the narcos, They're never gonna go away! As long as the USA has a demand for drugs and the drug business remains lucrative, there will be narcos. As a matter of fact, the president of Mexico should ALLOW drug cultivation in Chipas and Oaxaca. It would be great if Mexico legalized and sold all drugs.
They should legalize marijuana on all the states, and tax them. The same should be done here on the U.S. Such resource is of great income, while it can be controlled like beer. I don't believe on the legalization of other drugs though, because they kill people.
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People kill themselves. People that don't have self control are destined to fail. Treatment exists but it's a person's choice.
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People kill themselves. People that don't have self control are destined to fail. Treatment exists but it's a person's choice.
No they don't. People that want to kill others are the ones pulling the trigger. If they kill with the intent to put fear to a nation, and with the intent to suppress and to control a country, then they should be put to death by justice.
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No they don't. People that want to kill others are the ones pulling the trigger. If they kill with the intent to put fear to a nation, and with the intent to suppress and to control a country, then they should be put to death by justice.
WTF?! I was talking about the legalization of drugs. In your last reply to me, you said you are pro mj legalization but NOT other drugs because they kill people. This is about something else... kill with the jntent to put fear to a nation? suppress and to control a country? who should be put to death by justice? I guess you're talking about the cartels?
If that's the case, It's not going to go away by killing them. Even if they could be killed. The only way would be through a civilian militia founded by some nefarious schemes or a millionaire philanthropist. Even then, the government would aide the cartels because it's a covert government run trade.
If only it were not covert, legalized and heavily taxed, there would be even a chance to make a tangible solution to annihilate cartels. Cartels are gov. henchmen. That is all.
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WTF?

The only way would be through a civilian militia founded by some nefarious schemes or a millionaire philanthropist. Even then, the government would aide the cartels because it's a covert government run trade.
If only it were not covert, legalized and heavily taxed, there would be even a chance to make a tangible solution to annihilate cartels. Cartels are gov. henchmen. That is all.
I'm just sharing my ideas, if they want to use them is cool with me, otherwise, its their problem. I just wish that justice could be used the way justice meant to be used.
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When I watch TV shows from Mexico I also wondered why a lot of Mexicans are ashamed of being brown. Almost every single protagonist and anchor is Caucasian or of some European descent. Being white is put on such a high pedestal that it definitely does NOT deserve.
As for the narcos, They're never gonna go away! As long as the USA has a demand for drugs and the drug business remains lucrative, there will be narcos. As a matter of fact, the president of Mexico should ALLOW drug cultivation in Chipas and Oaxaca. It would be great if Mexico legalized and sold all drugs.
Mexican is a nationality not an Ethnicity. You are Mexican if you are born in Mexico.
I don't think Mexicans are ashamed of being brown it has to do with what looks best.
Where are the brown protagonist on movies or news anchors in the US?
the bottom line is people want to see good looking people on TV.
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Mexican is a nationality not an Ethnicity. You are Mexican if you are born in Mexico.
I don't think Mexicans are ashamed of being brown it has to do with what looks best.
Where are the brown protagonist on movies or news anchors in the US?
the bottom line is people want to see good looking people on TV.
Duh Mexican is not an ethnicity. That's why I said brown and Caucasian. People DO want to see good looking people on TV and there are plenty of good looking brown people on American TV also. A lot of people are ashamed of not being white. I had to deal w. people that had those sentiments and i found it tragic. Not just latinos either. anyway, I'll post something I had to show to someone that is Filipino and hated it. He felt "white" inside... Perhaps it's too long to read but it's interesting...

I just feel that it sucks that sometimes when someone might not feel as if they belong in one country or another, because of etc. belief, they might feel like trash.

Ask yourself a simple question? If you're of Mexican ancestry, I'd hope you know this. What two ethnic groups make up most of Mexico? It's Amerindians (Aztec) and Spaniards (and some other Europeans). That means Native Americans, white's and mixed of the two (Meztiso). If you have a Spanish station on your station in Southern California, turn it on. Many of the shows come from Mexico. Tell me how the people on their TV's look. Yeah, the white's hold disproportional wealth, but is it also because Mexico is ashamed of showing their indigenous ancestry to represent their culture? One thing you have to understand is you can't choose your ancestry. You should try to ask your parent's what is your ethnicity within your Mexican heritage. Being Mexican is not just an ethnicity. It's a country on the western hemisphere, meaning there's lots of diversity. Since you have ''light skin'', or simply what people would refer to as ''white'', and green eyes, wouldn't this say you're probably mostly, if not all, of white Spaniard ancestry? Why should you be ashamed of that? The problem is you're thinking of yourself as ''non-white'', yet if you were in Mexico, you would be considered ''white.'' The problem is you've allowed the American system, especially the media, to brainwash into your skull that if you're Mexican or ''Latino'', that you automatically aren't white? Until 1970, there was no such thing as the term ''Hispanic.'' Mexicans were historically always demographically recorded as whites, even if they were fully of indigenous ancestry, prior to 1970. They couldn't legally marry Asians or blacks in the 1930's, because they were considered white.

If you were born and raised in the United States, regardless of who it is you grew up around, your first language is English. That's what you were raised to educationally learn. If there's any American, born and raised here, who can't speak fluent English, who doesn't have a severe mental disability, they are and probably should be excruciatingly embarrassed. Trust me, you could survive on not knowing Spanish where it is you live, even if it'd make it annoying. Plenty of those of Mexican descent where you live, were born there and some have parents born there too. Lots of people can't speak, or properly read or write Spanish anymore. As for accents, when you're living around many foreigners, regardless of who it is, it's going to rub off on your accent. It doesn't matter what your ancestry is. Accent is purely environmental. The problem is, many people associate being Mexican, with being blue-collared, farmers, working-class and all these sorts of stereotypes which actually aren't true about most Mexican-American's. Southern California's very affluent. You can't afford to live on picking crops out of the ground. I got no clue why someone would want to move there to do that. If someone's going to, they should go to Texas, or somewhere else where it's cheaper. Compared to the world, Mexico's actually a moderately wealthy country, with a decent standard of living. Most of their middle class to wealthy populations live as good as American's and Canadian's. There are large class distinctions about Mexican's in Mexico. Most wealthier, more stable and educated Mexicans don't see the need to move to America. They do fine where they live. A couple may, but not too many. So American's often get the wrong impression of what Mexican's fully are.

Obviously, you're bilingual. You keep saying your first language is Spanish, which probably isn't true, if you've lived your whole life in this country. There are plenty of people who are perfectly ''50/50.'' In other words, they know both languages perfectly, and are fully capable of using both at any given moment. This is very valuable in America and is a significant educational advantage. Unfortunately, because of America's lousy educational infrastructure, especially in teaching foreign languages, it's why most people come out speaking Spanish like Peggy Hill. The only truly bilingual people we have in our country, who aren't foreign-born, or the children of foreigners, are usually lingual experts, or people who work in or with the military, who've lived overseas. Have you lived part of your life in Mexico? If you have, there could be some things you're seeing different culturally. What you need to stop doing though is categorizing yourself differently from other's. You keep saying you're not white, even though you have whiter features than most white's. It's not because you're ''light-skinned.'' It's because your probably of Spaniard ancestry, and believe me, they did plenty more to harm Native American's than most white American's you'll see ever did. They forced them to join Catholicism, learn their language, change their diet and killed ninety percent of them immediately with their diseases. So don't think by saying that you're ''light-skinned'', that it excuses what Spaniard's did to the Amerindians in the sixteenth century. I wouldn't say what you're going through is insecurity. I'd say it's more like confusion and adapting to different backgrounds. One thing I'll tell anyone is that, in America, if you're living around ninety five percent of people who are of the same background as you, it's just not healthy. You need diversity. You need to see other people. Otherwise, it feels everyone's like a robot. You don't get to see other cultures. Some base what they know of other's off stereotypes and learn that none of them turn out being true.

There's no such thing as ''acting'' or ''talking'' white. What you're referring to is acting ''American.'' It's not being ''white'', ''black'', ''Asian'' or anything. If you're middle class and American, you're generally going to sound and act the same as anyone. Look at non-Latino white American's. There's distinctions between ''rednecks'' and middle class people with education. With black's, it's the same thing. Those who ''sound black'' are usually poor. You have to portray a respectable image in the business world in order to succeed. America is very demanding when it comes to images. If you look at someone like Eva Longoria, who's a Mexican-American from southern Texas, where people stereotypically have a blend of a southern and ''Texmex'' accent. She absolutely has no accent at all though. If your brother speaks ''Spanglish'', rather than ''English'' or ''Spanish'', when it's necessary, he won't make it very far. Hopefully, he realizes that. In a small world, ''Spanglish'' can exist all it wants. In the real world, it's English, Spanish or separately know both. Mildly mixing it is okay, but if it's diffused too much, it comes out sounding uneducated. If your brother doesn't like that, tell him to go to Mexico City or talk to an American with some degree of education and see what they think of him. Any Mexican-American who thinks that ''acting white'' is something they don't already do, than they're sad. They're gang member look like more of Nazis than skinheads, they hate black's more than rednecks do and would be considered absolute trash in Mexico. In fact, they wouldn't even be considered Mexican's. People in Mexico are very proud of being Mexican and could care less what their distant relatives think in the war mongering country to the north. From the way you've described, you probably don't look ''Mexican'', but may look Mediterranean, depending on your features. This is something you should be proud of though, whether you look ''Mexican'', or what ever. Going by looks, most people usually don't assume. Some may, but their opinions are meaningless, since it usually comes from trash. People will be more concerned about the image a person portrays for themselves. A person's demeanor, character and class is what they should be judged on. Most Mexican immigrant's in America are working class, but most Mexican-American's, especially second and third generations, are actually middle class and do quite well for themselves right in southern California. Immigrants descendants camouflage into American society. If your parents are from Mexico, you should ask why they wanted to come to America to begin with. Not as if it's a good or bad thing, but you may be able to learn a lot and see how this can socially relate to your identity. You'd be surprised how much your relatives can help you with this.
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