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**UTAH guest worker program thread**

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03-06-2011, 10:12 PM
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They just passed a guest worker program in UT!

Anybody know a way to get this or where to go? I'm thinking of moving there in a few weeks... Maybe some of you are from there or you're planning to move there.

Anything to share? Opinions??

Please, no stupid bs on this thread.
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03-06-2011, 10:21 PM
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• The Associated Press contributed to this report

HB 466
Sponsored by: Rep. Stephen Sandstrom, R-Orem
Migrant Workers and Related Commission Amendments -- This bill would create a Utah Commission on Immigration and Migration and provide for the creation of a Migrant Worker Visa Pilot Program.


HB 497
Sponsored by: Rep. Stephen Sandstrom, R-Orem
Utah Illegal Immigration Enforcement Act -- This bill would allow law enforcement officials to verify immigration status of persons detained for a class B or C misdemeanor and require law enforcement officials to verify immigration status of all persons arrested for a felony or a class A misdemeanors.


HB 116
Sponsored by: Rep. Bill Wright
Utah Immigration Accountability and Enforcement Amendments -- This bill modifies general government provisions to address issues related to immigration and aliens.


Source: http://www.heraldextra.com/news/loca...aign=hottopics


HB 466
http://le.utah.gov/~2011/bills/hbillint/hb0466.htm

HB 497
http://le.utah.gov/~2011/bills/hbillint/hb0497s01.htm

HB 116
http://le.utah.gov/~2011/bills/hbillint/hb0116.htm

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03-06-2011, 11:02 PM
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If having a guest worker permit meant you can work anywhere you wish, then Utah would be the ideal place to move. We could all live a normal life by holding a job and driving a car using a Utah driving privilege card.
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People living in Utah or moving there will still face challenges. The guest worker program only allows you to work in places short of labor. They are specifically pushing to work with the Mexican government (specifically the state of Nuevo Leon), so you probably will not qualify.

Read the bill HB 466:



If having a guest worker permit meant you can work anywhere you wish, then Utah would be the ideal place to move. We could all live a normal life by holding a job and driving a car using a Utah driving privilege card.
I read something different though... I was reading this bill HB 116.

And this NYT article, from what I read, seems to say that there are two guest worker programs. One with Mexico, and another one that will apply to anyone who arrived Utah before May 10, 2011.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/us...ewanted=1&_r=1
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People living in Utah or moving there will still face challenges. The guest worker program only allows you to work in places short of labor. They are specifically pushing to work with the Mexican government (specifically the state of Nuevo Leon), so you probably will not qualify.

Read the bill HB 466:



If having a guest worker permit meant you can work anywhere you wish, then Utah would be the ideal place to move. We could all live a normal life by holding a job and driving a car using a Utah driving privilege card.
Can driving with a Utah driving privilege card be a reasonable suspicion?
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I read something different though... I was reading this bill HB 116.

And this NYT article, from what I read, seems to say that there are two guest worker programs. One with Mexico, and another one that will apply to anyone who arrived Utah before May 10, 2011.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/us...ewanted=1&_r=1
I think you are right.
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I read something different though... I was reading this bill HB 116.

And this NYT article, from what I read, seems to say that there are two guest worker programs. One with Mexico, and another one that will apply to anyone who arrived Utah before May 10, 2011.

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/07/us...ewanted=1&_r=1
I guess there might be two programs, but this just sounds too good to be true. There is probably a catch.

1) Is that permit valid to work anywhere? Let's say you are just a student in college, who wants to get a part-time job so can you apply for a job a Domino's? Or let's say you have an engineering degree, then can you work at an engineering firm?

2) Who will be willing to hire people with these permits? HB 116 states that an employer has to verify the validity of the permit, in other words, the employer is knowingly hiring an undocumented person.

If we can work anywhere and drive, then we should all move to Utah before May 11. Sounds like the normal life we have all been longing for.
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Can driving with a Utah driving privilege card be a reasonable suspicion?
The Utah driving privilege is not valid outside Utah, so it's useless unless you plan to live there. And yes, having a driving privilege directly implies you are undocumented.

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A person who would need to obtain a Utah Driving Privilege Card (DPC) would be:

* Individuals who are unable to establish legal/lawful presence and who are ineligible for a US Social Security Number. They must obtain an Individual Tax Identification Number (ITIN) from the Internal Revenue Service. Their DPC would expire on their birth date in the first year from the date the card was issued or renewed.
Source: http://publicsafety.utah.gov/dld/dri...ilegecard.html
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How does this work for Overstays who do have a social security card.
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The way Mrs. Robles was explaining it. It will make it really hard for undocumented immigrants without jobs in Utah but those with jobs will get a compromise card. This card let's you work as long as you comply with the requirements. Those requirements are English classes, a job and not getting charge criminally. Now if you are planning on moving there well then good luck because I think the program will not help you and the other laws will make you life harder that in Arizona. For one they will want to see that you have lived in Utah for at least two years and that you where employed. This is a great program but it will only benefit the immigrants in Utah nationally this does not change anything.

P.S. This law has to get a federal waiver that Obama will not give. Now if Mitt Romney does win the 2012 election Utah is almost assured it's waiver. That's why the law gives the governor until 2013 to get that waiver.
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