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DL for California Dreamers unclear

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08-21-2012, 07:53 PM
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The state Department of Motor Vehicles is waffling on whether it will issue driver's licenses to young illegal immigrants who qualify for an Obama administration deportation reprieve.

Late Monday afternoon, the agency seemed to take a middle course between its statement last week that it would issue drivers licenses and one early Monday that it was "not absolutely certain" licenses could be issued.

The DMV position was: "It appears that young people who receive federal deferrals will be eligible for California driver's licenses, but it remains uncertain whether clarifying legislation or regulations will be necessary."

What that means, said Mike Marando, a top spokesman for the agency, is that if the work permit the federal government issues to immigrants under the deportation-relief program is new or different from the current one, state legislation might be necessary for it to be a valid form of identification for obtaining a driver's license.

On Wednesday, the first day of a federal program that set aside the deportation threat and grants work permits for qualifying young illegal immigrants -- some 400,000 in California alone -- the DMV said those who have work permits can apply for California driver's licenses.

"Do they qualify for a driver's license? The answer is yes," said Marando, deputy director of communications for the state agency, on Wednesday night.

Then, the agency backtracked Monday morning: "The implications of the federal government's decision are not completely clear because they only started accepting applications," Marando said in an e-mailed statement.

Advocates on both sides of the politically charged illegal immigration debate are demanding answers soon from Gov. Jerry Brown and the DMV.

"There's a way to solve it. The governor, I think, has the power to do that, but he's been silent so far," said Lizbeth Mateo, an organizer for DreamActivist California who is eligible for the new work permits.

The 27-year-old Los Angeles activist said driving is essential to get to most jobs in California. She wants Brown to show the state to be "the leader in the way undocumented youth should be treated."

On the other side is Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, R-Hesperia, who says Brown "should come out very clearly and explain why one of his agencies has decided to just go rogue and hand out what was once one of the most secure documents in the world."

Donnelly on Monday sent a formal inquiry demanding more information from the DMV and warned that the license could become a "gateway ID" leading to other benefits.

Fine print on every California license says it is "a license to drive a motor vehicle; it does not establish

eligibility for employment, voter registration, or public benefits."

Still, Donnelly said it also "allows you to board a plane and do a whole lot of other things, whether it says it on the back or not."

Another state legislator said he will soon introduce legislation to grant the licenses if necessary.

"We've been preparing to do that," said Assemblyman Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, after talking with DMV officials. He has sought to give driver's licenses to all Californians regardless of immigration status for more than 15 years

Since 1993, California has required proof of legal U.S. residency to get a license, but it remains unclear whether state officials will interpret the Obama administration work permits as proof of temporary U.S. residency.

DMV officials said they have long accepted as proof of legal presence a temporary "employment authorization card" issued to some immigrants.

Virginia has already said it will issue licenses to those who get deferred action, according to an Aug. 7 letter from its DMV commissioner to the American Civil Liberties Union.

Arizona and Nebraska announced that they will refuse to grant any state benefits, including driver's licenses to young illegal immigrants getting federal work permits, and Texas Gov. Rick Perry's office said Monday that the federal program does not affect the state's requirement that Texans prove legal residency before obtaining a license, according to the Texas Tribune.

The Department of Homeland Security last week began accepting "deferred action" applications from 16- to 30-year-old immigrants who meet certain criteria, but left it for states to determine whether to grant other benefits.

"DHS doesn't comment on state-specific matters," said spokesman Peter Boogaard.

Among the other documents already accepted to obtain a California driver's license are U.S. birth certificates, passports or permanent resident cards, Canadian passports or birth certificates, American Indian cards, Northern Mariana cards, refugee travel documents and an immigration judge's order granting political asylum.

http://www.mercurynews.com/nation-wo...gal-immigrants
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08-21-2012, 08:02 PM
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LOL so we basically applied for nothing. So ridiculous.
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LOL so we basically applied for nothing. So ridiculous.
hahaha we have them $465 just for fun. California though? Yeah right. I believe CA will be giving out drivers licenses without a doubt.
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hahaha we have them $465 just for fun. California though? Yeah right. I believe CA will be giving out drivers licenses without a doubt.
Yup no doubt. It's just so funny how delusional these repubs are thinking that a US ID is the most secured document in the world like wtf lol.
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You guys need to relax, what they're saying is if that we get I-766 you will be eligible, if we get some other EAD then law will need clarifying. So far seeing how we all file I-765s its certain we're getting I-766s.
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I was wondering about the i-766 vs i-765. I know it's just one number difference, but if DMV specified i-766 in requirement, will we be turned down when we apply for DL?
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I was wondering about the i-766 vs i-765. I know it's just one number difference, but if DMV specified i-766 in requirement, will we be turned down when we apply for DL?
I-766 is the employment authorization card, I-765 is the application you file.
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As long as I can work legally I don't care about driving, I'll take the bus or ride a bike to work.
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As long as I can work legally I don't care about driving, I'll take the bus or ride a bike to work.
Well the rest of us do. MTA sucks more and more here in NYC, taking the bus is an increasing pain, in addition all the lines go on and around. It takes me to get 60 minutes via bus to college on a good day 90 minutes on a bad one, if shit hits the fan MTA decides to pull 4 consecutive buses that I use out of the system and move them elsewhere (while I see a bunch of other number drive by empty), driving shouldn't take more than 25.

In addition driver's license serves as a national ID card. One perk is flying domestic without the fear of the TSA agent flipping through pages to see that you have no valid visas.
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i wonder if i can get DL in NYC....without these sorts of trouble
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