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Iowa DOT: No driver's licenses to illegal immigrants granted deferred action

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12-27-2012, 01:55 PM
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It's the state of Iowa now, it's a domino effect soon a lot of more states will fall and deny driver's licences and I.D's, if Obama doesn't step in.
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/art...NEWS/121227002
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12-27-2012, 02:09 PM
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It's a very strategic move by Republicans, I believe they're trying to force the Obama administration to say whether we're legal or not so they can move forward with their lawsuit and reverse DACA.
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12-27-2012, 02:27 PM
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if Obama doesn't step in.
It's a states' right issue, not a federal one. A State has the right to set their standards even if that denies certain applicants from obtaining a DL/ID.
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12-27-2012, 02:47 PM
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I wish the DOJ had the power to go in and fire these people from their jobs, for their utter ignorance:

From the article.. "Rather, it is prosecutorial discretion extended in a blanket fashion to persons who are not lawfully authorized to be present in the United States."

If this isn't a politically-based statement, I don't know what is. "Blanket fashion"? Hardly, with all of the requirements for DACA. These states certainly didn't have an issue with other deferred action/TPS programs (i.e Haiti refugees)

Nevermind that by definition, someone who has been authorized by DHS to work in the US, is therefore authorized to be present in the US (as a beneficiary of DACA is). We may not have lawful status, but are nonetheless authorized to be here for the time being (2 years for DACA).

"DOT officials said that Iowa law says that a driver's license or nonoperator ID card shall only be issued to a foreign national authorized to be present in the United States."

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It's a states' right issue, not a federal one. A State has the right to set their standards even if that denies certain applicants from obtaining a DL/ID.

The federal government can circumvent the issue by demanding a mandoraty national ID program (not REAL ID because the program is a joke) but then everyone will protest. In the end it's a no win proposition.
While it is a State's right to decide who gets a specific state benefit (driver license), they do not get to determine who is authorized to be in the US or not, only the federal government (DHS) can decide this. A state may not discriminate against immigrants with lawful status or who are otherwise authorized to be in the US. Therefore, they cannot pick which immigrants it considers as "legitimate" and which not.
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Discrimination is not a State's right, at least not anymore
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It's a states' right issue, not a federal one. A State has the right to set their standards even if that denies certain applicants from obtaining a DL/ID.

The federal government can circumvent the issue by demanding a mandoraty national ID program (not REAL ID because the program is a joke) but then everyone will protest. In the end it's a no win proposition.
He's our president and is the only one left that can try and do something, I hope this comes back and bites Republicans on their behind, it already happened in the elections they're setting themselves up
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Discrimination is not a State's right, at least not anymore
^^ Agree
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Obama should issue an EO to the department of state allowing DACA beneficiaries in states refusing state IDs and Driver's licenses to get federal diplomatic licenses.

Deferred action makes you legally present in the country. What's the fucking problem with those fucktards. You can't just snap your fingers and give everyone legal status, but you can snap your fingers and give everyone legal presence. The second is what is important, not the first. USCIS did it all wrong with the custom category code (c33), they should just make it a big scramble.
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Man this sucks

That's like 4 States now
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12-27-2012, 11:19 PM
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Deferred action makes you legally present in the country.
Technically it does not.
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Although action on your case has been deferred and you do not accrue unlawful presence during the period of deferred action, deferred action does not confer any lawful status.
Essentially, we are in a state of limbo. Neither lawful nor can we be deported for a period of two years.

As for the President issuing another EO to all the Department of Transport/Motor Vehicles, that is a very unlikely scenario. The root of this issue is a permanent solution to the immigration system where we are held in equal to permanent residents/ citizens and not placed into some special category. Until then sadly this issue will continue and there is not much one can do.
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