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DAP Forums > DREAM Act > The Lounge

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09-27-2007, 02:12 AM
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Although enough has been taken out of dream to please conservatives, I was just wondering if you guys would still support the dream act if chain migration was not allowed? It would be strange though, and not sure if even possible, since after x years we would be normal citizens and they would have to create a specific group just for us.

Did a search on this and someone in here posted that we would not be able to sponsor our parents. Can anyone confirm it?
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09-27-2007, 02:28 AM
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I think it would be immoral to deny certain rights once you became a citizen. Once you're a citizen, that's the end of the line.

They're blowing chain migration out of proportion, though. You can only sponsor certain relatives, and the relatives that you can sponsor are probably already in this country. If they're here illegally, then they'll have a ten year ban where they'll have to be outside of the country for that long until you can even try, and then once you file for them, the typcal wait is about ten to fifteen years...they'd probably have one foot in the grave before they made it here.
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09-27-2007, 02:36 AM
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Please clarify Chain Migration. I feel as though you are confusing it with "Anchor Babies."

Chain Migration refers to the voluntary migration of people following others in succession from one place to another. Family members are not stipulated in the definition for Chain Migration.

If this is what you mean, then, I do not believe DREAM Act legislation calls for the perpetuation of chain migration from the various countries that DREAM kids hail from. It is a whole different topic.

If you meant Anchor Babies, then I also do not believe DREAM Act legislation states that soon-to-be conditional residents would be allowed to petition for their undocumented family members.

I can assure you that either scenario is NOT an endgame for pursuers of the DREAM Act.
If it were, then members here would have no problems with DREAM being attached to say, a Comprehensive Immigration Reform bill which would undoubtedly legalize both them and their family members.
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09-27-2007, 02:44 AM
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We will not be able to adjust the status of our parents with our temporary visas. Still, once we are citizens we will be able to legalize our parents. If our parensts were in other country I think it would be feasible but our parenst for the most part are undocumented. Thus, it would require extra paper work to claim them back without the 10 yeat ban kicking in. right? If is not going to be as easy as some think. On the other hand, I do not think many from this site are going to bring family members from other countries because the people we really need is nearby already. I do not think that it is going to create chain migration by parents bringing their kids with the hopes of those kids being legalize some day and thus sponsoring them. Parents come to this country to work. They cannot go back cause jumping the fense is really hard. They bring their kids to give them a better life and to be near them. Just think about it, your are a young man and you left your spouse and kids to provide for them. You cannot go back and hope to save money and go back. Soon he grows sad because the he misses the wife and the kids and decides to bring them for a while. That would speed the money saving because the wife will work with him. That is how dreamers are created. If they do not want dreamers to exist they need to create a temporary visa program so that people can come and go without getting americanized. i am so tired rambling around. I am leaving right now.

P.S. what created this huge immigration problem was not the anmesty. People do not come to the USA with the hopes of one day being legalize those are fringe benefits. What caused todays problems was the increase in border security in 1994 and 1996. It made it harder for men like my dad to come and go. Which he did since I was a year old. The only feasible choice was to bring us before the border became more insecure.
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09-27-2007, 02:49 AM
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In order to waive the ten year ban, you have to be able to claim extreme hardship on your (the citizen's) behalf. I've seen this done for spouses, but not for parents, especially since by the time you get your citizenship you won't exactly be depending on your parents. Which is exactly why the chain migration argument is silly.
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09-27-2007, 02:52 AM
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I totally forgot about the ten year ban regarding the sponsoring of relatives. Nice rebuttal. Don't know why anybody hasn't brought it up yet, as the opposition keeps mentioning that the parents will be granted amnesty and hundreds of thousands will be sponsored through this act. It might even encourage many to leave and come the "legal" way which seems to be the motto of our opposition.
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