Republicans: don't call it Pathway to Citizenship"

j83 · 09:44 PM

Seems like many House Republicans like the concept and mechanisms of the senate bill. It comes down to semantics; "pathway to citizenship" is not popular but they are for it, so, the solution: call it something else!

Edit the senate bill, call it "path to legalization", and vote on it. Done.

Let's see what happens as days come as it looks like the heat is on House Republicans to move this bill forward and get it over with.

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By Richard Cowan and Rachelle Younglai

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Prospects for congressional passage of a U.S. immigration overhaul looked bleak on Friday, but some House Republicans signaled they would offer a way for the 11 million illegal immigrants already in the country to get legal status that could be portrayed as something other than a pathway to citizenship.

The Democratic-controlled Senate on Thursday approved a bipartisan immigration bill backed by President Barack Obama, but leaders of the Republican-controlled House of Representatives are not expected to take action on the measure.

Instead, the House is charting its own course because many conservative Republicans firmly oppose the citizenship provisions in the Senate version as "amnesty" for law-breakers.

But a proposal being talked about in the House as an alternative to the Senate bill would offer possible citizenship in the future after current illegal immigrants spend at least a decade in a legalized status short of citizenship. The approach is similar to the Senate-passed bill.

The difference may be one of semantics, in which the term "pathway to citizenship" can be averted. But the House approach might offer at least a glimmer of hope for enactment of immigration reform any time soon - in part just because it would originate in the Republican-controlled chamber.

Republican Representative John Carter of Texas, one of seven Republicans and Democrats who have been working privately on a House immigration bill, is among those crafting the alternative.

When asked how the House might address the central challenge of what to do about the 11 million illegal immigrants - most of them Hispanics - Carter sketched out a plan that tracks closely to the measure passed in the Senate.

In his approach, the 11 million would spend 10 years in a legalized status that provides them with work permits. At some point after that, they could be considered for permanent resident status, followed by possible citizenship.

A senior House aide, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said such a plan could be presented in the House later this year, but that it would have to contain some tougher provisions than the Senate measure.

Underscoring the sensitivity of doing anything that looks like House Republicans are embracing "amnesty," the aide added: "If you (in the media) call it a 'pathway to citizenship' you will be responsible for killing immigration reform."

The Senate bill, approved on Thursday by a 68-32 vote with 14 of the Senate's 46 Republicans going along, would put millions of illegal immigrants on a pathway to legal status and citizenship. Republicans in the House immediately called it "dead on arrival."

HISPANIC VOTERS

Hispanics, a fast-growing segment of the U.S. population, voted overwhelming for Obama, a Democrat, in last year's election. Some Republicans have expressed concern about hurting their party for years to come by continuing to alienate Hispanics on the immigration issue.

House Speaker John Boehner has said he will not advance an immigration bill unless it has the support of a majority of the House's 234 Republicans, ruling out chances of a Senate bill passed largely by Democrats with some Republican support.

Many saw that as the death knell for comprehensive immigration reform since so many House Republicans are thought to oppose the pathway to citizenship.

Republican Representative Tom Cole of Oklahoma said in an interview that he did not envision an immigration bill on the House floor this year "unless it's very late in the year" and "may go into next year" as lawmakers deal with more pressing budget and financial issues.

Referring to Boehner's conditions, Democratic Representative Chris Van Hollen of Maryland said: "That's anti-democratic and I'm afraid that could doom the prospects of immigration reform." Appearing on MSNBC, Van Hollen added, "No one's giving up yet. I still think there's great hope. But that was not a promising statement."

Republican Representative Trey Gowdy of South Carolina, who chairs a House panel that oversees immigration, on Thursday was asked by Reuters whether the Senate's immigration reform bill was dead in the House. He responded: "Dead has a certain finality to it. I would say it's on life support."

White House spokesman Jay Carney said the Obama administration in coming days will do what it can to try to build support in the House.

At least some House Republicans publicly support a pathway to citizenship for the illegal immigrants already in the country. Representative Spencer Bachus of Alabama, a member of the House Judiciary Committee that has been writing more limited immigration bills, has become an outspoken advocate of ending the deportation fears of these 11 million people.

"A path to citizenship is not popular in Alabama. However, I have stated - against public opinion in my state - that I am for a path to citizenship because I don't believe in second-class citizens," Bachus told Reuters.

He added, "If you don't have a pathway to citizenship, you create an underclass."

(Additional reporting by Caren Bohan; Editing by Fred Barbash and Will Dunham)

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/house-republic...220814530.html

Task_1539 · 06-28-2013, 10:03 PM

And yet we get criticized for "playing with words" when we call ourselves undocumented immigrants or unauthorized migrants.

swiftp · 06-28-2013, 10:58 PM

I never thought I would say this but WWGWBD:

Pianoswithoutfaith · 06-29-2013, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by swiftp

I never thought I would say this but WWGWBD:

Yeah we talked about this earlier here.

Amnesty gets throw out when you (general not you you) can't defend your point. But the word amnesty means to pardon, to forgive the next action is a path to make up for it (paying back taxes, get behind the line, ect ect) but alot of people agaisnt a CIR throw it out thinking amnesty translate to citizenship the day after a cir is pass and refuse to understand what amnesty really means.

DA User · 06-29-2013, 02:40 AM

Lol. I don't care what they call it. I don't care if they call it 'Pathway to S**tHole". As long as they pass it.
Whatever it [email protected]

Pianoswithoutfaith · 06-29-2013, 02:54 AM

your gimmick is falling apart DA user best you check on it

Happyman0607 · 06-29-2013, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by swiftp

I never thought I would say this but WWGWBD:

Got a new found respect for bush lol I guess the timing just wasn't right for his presidency

dreamerperson · 06-29-2013, 11:01 AM

Well this is unexpected:

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Representative Spencer Bachus of Alabama, a member of the House Judiciary Committee that has been writing more limited immigration bills, has become an outspoken advocate of ending the deportation fears of these 11 million people.

"A path to citizenship is not popular in Alabama. However, I have stated - against public opinion in my state - that I am for a path to citizenship because I don't believe in second-class citizens," Bachus told Reuters.

He added, "If you don't have a pathway to citizenship, you create an underclass."

Why can't more Rethugs be more like this guy and Sen. Graham?

DA User · 06-29-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

your gimmick is falling apart DA user best you check on it

Does it matter what it is called?

swiftp · 06-29-2013, 03:08 PM

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Why can't more Rethugs be more like this guy and Sen. Graham?

Even though Alabama is 69% White, its main industries are agriculture, manufacturing (automotive), and a growing information sector. I assume he might be starting to feel pressure from chamber of commerces and labor unions, as well as tech companies. That's one of the beauties about CIR, that despite a state being really red and mostly White, there's still that economic element that will bring a lot of people in support of CIR.

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