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EU's Franco Frattini to unveil 'blue card' immigration scheme

23 October 2007

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The European Union is proposing a new immigration system for highly skilled migrants -- loosely based on the United States "green card" -- called the "blue card" after the color of the EU flag. The system is set to be unveiled on 23 October 2007 in Strasbourg, France by Vice President of the European Commission Franco Frattini.

The blue card is an attempt to lure migrants who would otherwise go to other destinations such as the US, Canada, or Australia. The European Commission says the EU needs 20 million skilled immigrants over the next 20 years, especially in the computer technology and engineering sectors.
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The proposed scheme would offer a two-year, renewable work permit throughout the European Union. However, it comes with some restrictions -- the blue card would require a recognized diploma, three years professional experience, and a job offer that could not be filled by an EU citizen.

"To maintain and improve economic growth in the EU, it is essential for Europe to become a magnet for the highly skilled. Qualified and highly qualified migrants prefer the USA, Canada and Australia," the European Commission said in a statement.

"...the EU must present a united front, rather than emphasize the different immigration policies of each member state," it added.

Not all nations would have to take part in the blue card scheme. The United Kingdom, Ireland, and Denmark would have the ability to opt out.

The UK said it would study the new scheme but would probably stay with developing its new points based scheme, set to roll out in 2008.

Ireland will more than likely continue with its own Irish Green Card scheme and it's unclear what Denmark will do, being a fairly conservative country in regards to immigration.

Controversy

All of the EU Member States will have to agree on the final plan and approve it before it could come into effect. However, politicians in several nations, in particular Germany, the Netherlands and Austria, have expressed concerns and appear ready to resist.

Voters throughout Europe are worried about immigration and migration issues, and representatives from some regions need to address local concerns and viewpoints.

Businesses are pushing to open up the labor pool. Increasingly they maintain that new graduates and more skilled workers from outside of the EU, namely from source countries such as China and India, are required to sustain and increase economic growth.

What is clear is that the EU needs to solve its problem concerning skills shortages and an aging population.

The over-65 population of the EU is anticipated to rise from 15.4 percent figure in 1995 to 22.4 percent by 2025, according to the EU's statistical office.

Meanwhile, skills shortages in the new EU-member states and nations such as Germany are forcing authorities to rethink their strategies on immigration.

Even if we went there, we most likely wouldn't get a skilled job since it requires three years professional experience.

I told you 3.5 months ago. There are no stupid, Nazi and KKK people at EU& Europe.
There are no borders and walls as well. People there are FREE.
Unfortunately only Nazi and KKK people (not exactly people) remaining on the Planet are
here in USA.
EU& Europe –Countries/People/Governments/Parliaments etc… are concerned only
for the PROSPERITY of their nations and FREEDOM of their citizens( plus the citizens of other
Countries as you can see in the quote below).
Quote:
The reason that I’m contacting you AGAIN is the news that I found on MTI (Magyar Távirati Iroda (MTI) or in English Hungarian News Agency. Same later was confirmed by AFP (Agence France-Presse) as well. This was 2 hours ago (took me forever to translate it). It’s not on CNN even BBC or Reuters. (I don’t think they will even mentioned it)

Hungary gave a political asylum to 29 Cubans that were kept in the American Marine base in Guantanamo after unsuccessful attempts to flee from Cuba, the Hungary Foreign Ministry, quoted by the agency MTI, told.

Above 29 who requested political asylum are part of a group of 44 Cubans presently in Guantanamo that were detained by the American Border Authorities during the last few years. Seventeen of them held 3-weeks hunger strike in protest against the conditions in which they were held and against a continuous denial by The American Authorities to grant them asylum. They ended the hunger strike upon receiving the news that Hungary (first), unrevealed foreign country (second) and USA (third) will admit them as a refugees.
Unquote:
Don’t be confused above 44 Cubans are simply poor refugees kept among the terrorist detainees in Guantanamo Bay. Please pay close attention to the order they received the political asylum Hungary first, another (unnamed) country second and USA third. Do you remember what I told you 20 days ago in my first msg regarding the new strategy (items 7 and : That International image and reputation as a free country and example for democracy etc .. of USA is heavily damaged worldwide.
Hungary is a small country with only 9.8 million population (less than LA) they didn’t put any pressure on US . They simply told them: If you don’t want this poor innocent people whose only “gilt” is that they tried to escape from Cuba in their desire to be FREE, the Republic of Hungary will take them. We don’t want to know whether they are legal /illegal, white, black, brown, yellow, orange (ok enough you get the point) for us the Hungarians they are just people in desperate need for FREEDOM. The People of Hungary didn’t ask whether these powerless people are educated or not and how much their admittance to Hungary will cost. They did not even discuss endlessly in their Parliament money/taxes/race. So burned in shame US agree to take the rest as a refugees also.
So what I said 3.5 months ago regarding this terrible shame that USA will have to deal with if your case is brought to G6/ G8 /UN/ EU attention was not some crazy eccentric idea
Unquote:
Oliver

Oliver no offense since I really appreciate everything you do but I'm from the EU and I certainly don't see things that way.

There are Nazi youths in almost every European country with fairly strong numbers in some of them. If you think Americans don't like immigrants what do you think is going to happen in countries where immigrants get far more than they do in the US. My family left Europe because the wages are depressed and the prices are far higher. There's a reason why the US economy outperforms the EU virtually every year. Even looking at a weak dollar you still earn less in even the best European countries than you do in the US.

That's not to even mention the fact that the governments have no respect for property rights (my family's properties were all seized by a new government that decided the poor could use them more). Europe's protectionist policies do them a disservice and there's really no reason to think countries like France will change that anytime soon.

Europe is not better than the US. Maybe in some things but certainly not overall.

J6... tell that to my sister....!

while that is true. they do have a lot of neo-nazis . they are greatly outnumbered by anti-nazi/ communist /socialist /anarchist groups overall.

J6 I know exactly from where you are. (btw, back in UE we are neighbors ).
And also I’m not offended at all, because you misunderstood the message that I wanted to send with the subject post, and it’s not your fault simply above message is one small part of one very long message thus leaving a room for misunderstanding.
America is your country .When Dream Act passed you will make it better. I’m not promoting any immigration to EU /Europe because also no offence but I know Europe much better then all of you (naturally I’m visiting Europe twice a month.)
My message was and is below:
So burned in shame US agree to take the rest as a refugees also.
So what I said 3.5 months ago regarding this terrible shame that USA will have to deal with if your case is brought to G6/ G8 /UN/ EU attention was not some crazy eccentric idea.
i.e. since in this country is OK one US Senator (Sessions- the liar etc) in Senate in front of all nation to stand up an LIE (in state tuition etc..) without any fear of further investigation and punishment- you have no chances for any justice here.
If there is no one democrat to stand up and say in the Senate again in front of all nation: Come here ………… (Sessions) and tell American people why you are lying or show the Americans and your colleagues where is this instate tuition stipulated in the bill -you have no chances for any justice here.
But if here you don’t have chances your voices to be heart there is International Court of Justice (part of UN) located in Hague. So what I was trying to said (sadly again misunderstood) was that in 2007(shame) there are Dream Kids in USA that needs urgent INTERNATIONAL attention.

And above is exactly what I’m planning to do: To sue Session in ICJ for crimes against humanity.


Capt. Oliver von Heinze

Also they (neo- nazis etc) are not in the EU Parliament , and NEVER will be there… NEVER it’s year 2007
obviously not here. here is year 1807.

Capt. Oliver von Heinze

PS1- also title of the tread is misleading Unfortunately I'hv posted under wrong title. Idea is the World to be alerted
of what happened here on Oct. 24th. 2007.(shame for any nation!!!)
PS2 - also when you post something for me there is no need of opening phrase "We all appreciate what you did/done...
I will post later why I was here

ok, I see what you meant.

I am a bit of an idealist and I really believed (key there being the past tense) that America still reflected the values that made it great. I think the founding principles of the US are by far the best in the world and even though Europe is the birthplace of these ideas there's no country that really believes in them as much as the Americans did in the past.

I have no allegiance to the state where I was born outside of the pride for its history. Don't get me wrong, I think Europe is a great place, I just thought until recently that America would always be better.

As much love as I have for the US it's really testing my patience. As a person who is educated and never committed any crime it seems stupid to me that the US would not want me or other people on this forum. That to me shows that America is becoming increasingly ignorant and unwise.

The mere fact that someone like David Vitter could preach about "justice and honesty" is quite honestly completely fucking ridiculous. This coming from a guy whose campaign was "family values" and ended up screwing prostitutes quite possibly on taxpayer time. As a taxpayer and conservative and a man who would never dishonor my family that way, I find that appalling.

The fact that Jeff Sessions is up for reelection and has strong support leads me to believe that the people of Alabama aren't capable of any independent thought and despite having access to THOMAS can't read the bill by themselves.

Ugh....

the mere fact that someone like David Vitter could preach about "justice and honesty" is quite honestly completely fucking ridiculous. This coming from a guy whose campaign was "family values" and ended up screwing prostitutes quite possibly on taxpayer time. As a taxpayer and conservative and a man who would never dishonor my family that way, I find that appalling.

The fact that Jeff Sessions is up for reelection and has strong support leads me to believe that the people of Alabama aren't capable of any independent thought and despite having access to THOMAS can't read the bill by themselves.
^^^^^^^^^
Exactly Plus;

I’m typing with keys for my car in my left hand I have to go…

Session killed the bill 2.5 min. before the vote. He called the WH for this veto declaration, he (with his evil smile) methodically with perverted pleasure of serial killer was lying and lying b4 your eyes (I don’t care for the ….. million sheep enjoying the moment) when you wanted and hopping for only one thing
“chance “ your case just to be taken into consideration.
I’m not idealist at all, nor naïve. l know that ALL politicians around the world(incl.EU) are the same liars, but there is big difference whether some politician is doing this for money /power/ re election on general debate or topic etc… But if somebody knowingly is killing the hopes, dreams and desire for normal life of thousand of kids this is called crime against humanity

Uhh I have to go, but I’ll come back from the hotel.