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If Dream NEVER passes...

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#1
11-02-2007, 04:24 AM
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What will you guys do? Continue living in the shadows or what?
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I'll just wait until I run out of money to go to school. I'm waiting until 2011-2012 when I graduate from college. I'll do double majors so that it'll give me reasons to stay illegally, if that's what the government wants. If NOTHING happens by 2013, I'm going to self-deport and be somebody important in my country. I don't see a point in working at crappy minimum wage jobs if you know you're worth more than that. You could be earning millions back in your home country with a nice American college degree.

Now, I'd love to stay here, pay taxes, vote in elections, and be part of America. But if the reality is that America doesn't want me, then it's really a waste because CA is subsidizing my education. I should at least be allowed to contribute back to the country that's given me so much. If I self-deport, I can't pay back this country for all the good things it has given me.

Of course I want Dream to pass. I love this country and I don't want to leave it. It's really not up to us though. It's up to the government to do something about it. We can keep on fighting, calling, and doing what we do in order to get it passed. I know not everybody's going to agree with my plan, but what else can we do if the government fails to act then?

I personally think it's going to pass eventually. Yeah, five years passed and no Dream, but we're sluggishly inching closer to it. (It was brought up for a vote and got more support than opposition.) They can't leave this immigration crisis hanging by 2012! I'm sure the 111th, 112th, 113th will do something if this crappy one doesn't do anything.

I know it's difficult to even comprehend leaving our home, but living in the shadows is hardly the American dream. I hate it when I work (as a cashier for a donut shop) and I see people's ID cards in their wallets. It stings me every time I see it because it reminds me of what I really am. This one guy left his green card on the counter, and it's just plain annoying seeing people not taking value in what they have.
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And you know what Alipac? I'm more American than a lot of my legal citizen friends. I hear American born Chinese people speaking with thick accents. They feel more loyalty to China and yet, they're American citizens. They don't give a crap about the elections. They don't care about this country at all. All they care about is taking advantage of the system in order to better themselves, not the country. They complain about paying taxes. They don't give a crap about our military. They don't care about serving the country. A lot of them diss America, and yet, they're legal.

I'm illegal but I do none of those things. I'm perfectly fluent, I care about America and I won't complain about taxes or money I have to pay to the government. If there was a draft, I'll be happy to go and fight for the country I love.

My family pays into social security. They pay taxes. All of you retired Alitards, you're collecting social security from the money illegals pay into the system. They may never collect this money. It's a shame your bigotry blinded you from the truth.
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11-02-2007, 04:34 AM
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The day I am dragged out is the day I will cease to walk on the soil of this great US of A.
If you can afford to keep going to school even while working crappy jobs then do it. Get a PHd for God's sake. Sooner or later not only Dream will pass but there will be another actual "amnesty". That is a fact. I have a feeling something big will happen.


The parts from newegg would take longer to get to any other place. :P
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#3
11-02-2007, 04:48 AM
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yes my brother i feel you i am really getting the feeling that they don't want us here, lets just wait and see.
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11-02-2007, 05:50 AM
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That was a dude said this " I am pround to be an undocumented immigrant, I am an anonymous that nobody can ask for my identity, I feel like I am Superman and Spiderman............." <<===== try think this way...............................
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11-02-2007, 03:30 PM
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I'm sure that as you get older you will change your point of view. you're what? 17? 18?

you do have a point about trying to do something with your "nice american degree" and be a millionare somewhere else, but the truth is that is not that easy. if I'm wrong, then why are doctors, lawyers, and many more proffesionals crossing the border and working at minial jobs?

people die trying to get in this great country and you complaing about what your american friends do and want to leave the country? come on!

I know its hard, but you need to "work with what you have". after all, we are in the land of opportunity.

take care and try to look at the bright side of things. life is way too short to waste it being depressed. : -)
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11-02-2007, 04:36 PM
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im waiting until i graduate from college to weight my options.

id rather be a poor no one with a degree in another country and be able to do something with my life
then a well off no one with a degree in this country and not be able to do anything with my degree

but thats just me


people dont risk their lives to live in the usa.

they risk their lives to feed their families

many of the people who come here looking for opportunities that they dont have in their countries.
education/money/ food etc etc

many of us have already gotten a good education. and most importantly we probably dont have a family of our own to support. so its not insane or cowardly to look elsewhere for a job be at ur home country or somewhere else. we all have to live. we cant just sit around all our lifetimes waiting for citizenship.
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11-02-2007, 04:43 PM
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I thought about this....if they pass the Agjobs, what makes politicians think that there will be no fraud produced from that. They worried that lots of people would commit fraud with the DREAM act, but come to think of it, people can commit fraud with the Agjobs as well if it offers a pathway to citizenship. What do you guys think?
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11-02-2007, 05:53 PM
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I wish I could get a job but I dont know how
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11-11-2007, 12:58 AM
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i am planning to go back my own country if i am done with my CAL STATE...........sigh.....will see....
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11-11-2007, 01:11 PM
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This is the ironic part. DREAMers with degrees will leave and those who wouldn't qualify for dream, the ones who never graduated high school or went to college will stay, get married and become legal. Yes, even most people who were brought here without a visa can adjust their status if they can prove hardship thorugh marriage.

The stupid ALIPACers don't realize is by not passing DREAM a lot of people won't graduate high school and probably end up pregnant and married before age 20. They will be legal and uneducated. The ones who would have contributed will leave.

For the rest of us: Stay as long as possible. The US has the best grad schools in the world. I hate to say this but a bachelor's from the US is useless in many countries. You need a graduate degree. Do not leave until you at least have a masters. If you can get a PhD, even better. Even if you have to attend a private school, move to another state, and only take 1 class at a time. Do it. Even if it takes you 6 years to get your masters. There is no way any of us will get a student visa or nay other non-permanent visa to come back here. Once you leave, you're gone for 10 years at least.

DREAM will pass, but when? I don't know. Don't arrange your life around DREAM. Act as though it will never pass and that way you've prepared for the worst and when it does pass, you will much better off.

Ibrahim, MAgrad, you guys can legalize yourselves. You just have to wait a couple of years. If you fall under 245i, don't leave. You are lucky and it sucks to wait but it will work out for you guys.
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