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How do you stomach the fact that your friends are conservative?

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05-15-2014, 09:58 AM
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This is an extension to my previous rant about the Chinese community. I have bones to pick with some of my closest friends from HS.

So this guy I have known for 17 years is a damn repub who hates Obama. He has made remarks such as "This damn black sucks as President." (As I have previously pointed out, it is very common among Chinese to group people based on their skin color) and how a Democrat administration wouldn't benefit him because he "currently makes high 5 digits and will soon reach 6 digits." Obviously he hates Obamacare and trashes it every now and then. Except he doesn't seem to remember that this "damn black" president gave his best friend DACA. Or perhaps he simply doesn't care because his entire family has already settled down here and now can look down on the undocumented.

And this other guy who witnessed how I struggled all my life over this stupid status suggested that we should go somewhere when I no longer need to present a Chinese passport or NY license stating temp visitor status expired to the TSA agent (for fear of deportation) to board a flight. Well, I went out of state and got myself a license without the big red scary letters. (Pre-DACA days) What's his excuse now? "Oh, my family fears for your safety. I don't want you to get detained and deported." How on earth would I get detained with an ordinarily-looking DL? In reality he is a moron. He just fears for being caught associating and harboring an illegal.

I know the world doesn't revolve around me and other people should not adjust their political view to further my interests. But at the same time, I know for a fact that they look down on Mexicans, illegals or other groups whom they deem for having lower social and economic status. I am sure that a little tax break is more important to the first guy than his best friend's entire livelihood here when electing a President. And no matter how the second guy justifies it, he distanced himself from me over his moronic paranoia.

Because of those reasons, I cannot bring myself to see them as friends.

End of rant.
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05-15-2014, 12:36 PM
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Well I am a conservative and so are a good chunk of my friends. I sincerely hope you don't base your political views on immigration alone. The last amnesty was under Reagan and Bush jr did genuinely try reform in his term despite dissent from his party. Rick Perry was willing to defend the Texas Dream Act during the last presidential primaries.

Obama has given us DACA. Doesn't mean we should pretend to like his other policies. Not that Romney, a liberal republican, would have been much better. I do wonder what a McCain presidency would have been like. Would he have been able to pass immigration reform?
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05-15-2014, 12:56 PM
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Best way to go about it is to have educated responses for everything they say. I myself experienced this with my own family. My mom who came as an illegal immigrant and got amnesty has voted republican twice (because of her conservative religious beliefs about gay marriage & abortion) and my brother who has a really good paying job and hates paying high taxes has become more conservative and voted for Romney. He also came in illegally at the age of 2 and is now a U.S. citizen.

Whenever they sit there and complain about how Obama hasn't doesn't anything as far as an immigration reform, I like to point out how my wife was able to get DACA (which Obama passed) which allowed her to get AP and led to her getting her green card. I also point out how DACA pushed illegal immigrants to seek an education to become eligible and they'll be more educated because of it. No president is perfect and not one person can fix the whole country, yet people want to make it seem that way and blame everything on Obama. So yes you can stomach it and be mad, or you can simply point the benefits of DACA and how congress is preventing Obama from passing an immigration reform.
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05-15-2014, 04:40 PM
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Unless we go back very far, I just remove them from my life. I don't need friends who think I shouldn't be here. I met a Canadian girl 6 years ago who figured out my situation. She came here with a work sponsorship because she was a nurse and she was all on her high horse because she paid a lot of money to a lawyer and did things the right way...For some reason we still talked for a year and she was always on her high horse about those fence jumpers would would give a token "But I hope things work out for you".

Then she met this redneck guy and got engaged and became a citizen and every post on facebook was anti-obama and so I just decided I'd remove her from my life...we had a mutual friend at that point so I didn't want to completely delete her off my facebook so I made sure she couldn't see any of my posts, and after a few months deleted her and blocked her from facebook. I forgot she was still on one of my messengers so she saw me last month and was all wondering where I've been. Also gave a "I guess Obama lied about immigration reform huh?" . yeah.

Maybe that's not possible but at least you can know who you real friends are.
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05-15-2014, 06:18 PM
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Yeah one of my "friends" always complains about Obama. Yet he has a minimum wage paying job and what asked him how he felt about Obamacare he somehow managed to be upset over the fact that he qualified and receives free health care now. It's okay if you don't believe in the guy's policies, but it gets ridiculous when Obama haters complain about EVERY single thing he does. They complain that he hasn't passed an immigration reform, yet the policies he has passed without congress, they consider it unconstitutional. Sorry but you can't have it both way republicans.
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05-15-2014, 08:36 PM
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Just explain what needs to be explained. If they feel strongly about something that's their decision. Everyone is ignorant to certain topics. If they offend you in some way let them know, unless you don't mind cutting them off from your life. It's your life really and you get to pick and choose who's a part of it.
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05-15-2014, 09:06 PM
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Well, the majority of us are hispanics and the majority of hispanics are extremely conservative except when immigration isnt their way.
I think the better subject here is how do we feel with friends who arent against an immigration reform
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05-15-2014, 11:29 PM
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Just tell them, "too poor to support the Republican Party." Haha, you've seen the sticker, right? Too poor to vote Republican. It's sooo true!

Seriously, if you're not rich and you still "like/support" (of course I know we can't vote) the Republican Party, you should do some reflecting. Some republicans use, abortion, or gay marriage as a bait. They are all about making the richer richer in the end.

My current bosses are good people, but they are ignorant (or maybe not, they have a lot of money, so I guess they do have a reason to vote Republican). They watch Huckabee and all that crap. Of course I can't say anything, that's where I work, but the other day the issue about gay marriage came up, and I just couldn't keep my mouth shut...

Sometimes I pretend to be really stupid and not know anything. The other day I asked one of my bosses, if she would vote for Hillary, she almost started chocking on her saliva because of how fast she wanted to say no, haha, And I asked her, what about Palin? And she said, "she'd be the perfect candidate."

These people I'm taking about blame Obama for everything that happens in their lives. If Obama were to get a dollar for every time they mention their name he'd be rich!! It's so pathetic and stupid. I'm not one of those persons who ADORES Obama, but for me seeing how he's blamed for everything only shows how stupid these people are.

If I were you, I'd just keep informing myself and maybe not be best friends with them, but you could try to teach them/have a dialog with them to show them how things really are.
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05-16-2014, 11:12 AM
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All my colleagues at work are Obama haters and they make 10k a day CEO status. I sometimes just go along with them. They're still good people, just wrong political party affiliations. They never knew that I was illegal.

If I were legal in this country I would probably support the Republican party 30% of the time.

I believe that welfare programs for the unemployed should stop, there are jobs everywhere that even illegals like us can obtain.

Now assistance for people earning minimum wage I can agree with but those with flat out no jobs don't have my sympathy. There is a white family outside Costco who panhandle all the time. I drove by and offered them a job for a day since I was feeling too lazy to do some typing and they refused stating they earn more by begging (mind you I offered them 80 bucks for 3-4 hours of work) . I just loled and left.

PS: I never seen a minority panhandle. Day laborers who often stand infront of home depot has my respect.
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05-16-2014, 03:29 PM
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I am personally extremely grateful for DACA.
I have read both "Dreams from my Father" and "Audacity of Hope" books and I loved the Dreams from my Father books. Obama was an immigrant in Indonesia, and with that, and his humble upbringing, I felt a simple connection with him.
I used to be super conservative when I was a child and lived in Mexico. One of those nasty gay-hating, anti-choice people, and I was like that up till I was 17. Then I went to college...

My best friend is a conservative Republican. I love her to death, but we just don't talk politics and we get along just fine.
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