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can someone calculate the rest of the delegates that Obama is likely to get ?

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02-06-2008, 06:12 PM
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we need to know this, Clinton is worried, she even accepted a debate from foxnews, and Obama won more states then she did so I think he has a good chance, big states like TX,OH,PA are still there, these three states worth like 480 delegates, so If you can calculate it for us that would be great, thanks in advance.
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02-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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to prove my point folks read this article:
the hope is still there, don't give up.
I don't know why that I sound so pessmistic, the oppisition force are being pessmistic as well, so looks like the oppisition and us are in the same boat right now ? who is happy about all of this ? who is the winner ?

http://theboard.blogs.nytimes.com/20...-aint-over/?hp
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This website provides fairly up to date information.We definitely hold the advantage.
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it shows Obama is behind by wide margin for all other states that's left, how are we holding advantage ?
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That is because it doesn't matter who is winning on the Democratic side,what is most important is who is winning on the Republican side & McCain appears to be only ~400 points from winning the Nomination.We should all know that it doesn't matter if either Obama or Clinton wins the Nomination what we need more than anything else is a Pro-CIR President & having all available options locked up in the Nomination process appears to be what we'll get.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point, Ianus. I do believe that who is elected on the Democratic side does make a difference. It is in our interest to have a Democratic nominee (and hopefully, president) who is capable of bringing both sides to the table. As we so painfully saw, a president's support of a bill does not necessarily mean it will come to fruition. This is not to say that Obama does not have his share of GOP detractors, but I get the sense that the GOP (or at the very least, the Conservative bloc of Congress) will be less amenable to compromise with someone they hate as much as Clinton.
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Okay, I think I understand overall what you are asking and will do my best to give a good answer. In the Democratic Party, there are a total of 4,049 delegate votes and a candidate needs to secure 2,225 in order to win the nomination.

The primaries are ran in order for states to select a number of delegates pledged to an individual candidate. Each state has a number based ultimately on population and the number of delegates to a candidtate depends on the percentage of the vote they secure. Furthermore, there are a number of elected officials that are superdelegates, which are allowed to vote towards a candidate as well.

Currently Clinton is in the lead with 818 delegates, made up of 625 pledged and 193 superdelegates. Obama follows with 730 delegates, made up of 624 pledged and 106 superdelegates. As one can see, based upon voting they are virtually tied, Clinton's lead is dependant on the support of elected officials.

This total is made up of all previous primaries. During Super Tuesday alone, Clinton secured 575 pledged votes while Obama secured 560. New Mexico has yet to be called as it is a very close race, last I checked Clinton is winning by only 210 votes. This is particularly close considering that 135,744 votes have been casted. Up for grabs is 26 more delegates, though being this close I would expect for each candidate to when 13 pledges.

Now for you actual question, that gets nearly impossible to predict as the number of pledged delegates is dependent on the percentage of the vote secured in each state. This election cycle, polling data has been notoriously inacurate on a number of occasions, so I wouldn't even venture to use that to get a feel.

Here is what I can say, expect the delegates to be generally evenly split except for states where one candidate or another is able to secure a sizeable lead. Here is a bit of what's around the corner.

Feb. 9 Washington, Louisiana, and Nebraska (194 delegates total)
Feb. 10 Maine (34 delegates)
Feb. 12 Virginia, Maine, D.C. (238 delegates total)
Feb. 19 Wisconsin, Hawaii (121 delegates total)
Mar. 4 Texas, Ohio, Rhode Island, Vermont (444 delegates total)
Mar. 8 Wyoming (18 delegates)
Mar. 10 Mississippi (40 delegates)
Apr. 22 Pennsylvania (188 delegates)
May 6 North Carolina and Indiana (218 delegates total)
May 13 West Virginia (39 delegates)
May 20 Oregon and Kentucky (125 delegates)
June 3 Montana and South Dakota (47 delegates)

By the end of this month we should have a clearer picture of how things are going, with March 4 being a very critical day.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point, Ianus. I do believe that who is elected on the Democratic side does make a difference. It is in our interest to have a Democratic nominee (and hopefully, president) who is capable of bringing both sides to the table. As we so painfully saw, a president's support of a bill does not necessarily mean it will come to fruition. This is not to say that Obama does not have his share of GOP detractors, but I get the sense that the GOP (or at the very least, the Conservative bloc of Congress) will be less amenable to compromise with someone they hate as much as Clinton.
I second rock_steady on that point. We want the best of all possible outcomes so that DREAM and/or CIR becomes a reality ASAP. It is obvious that Clinton, Obama, and McCain are favorable to us in making it happen BUT who is the MOST favorable is what we need to discuss.

I agree with rock steady, the best possible outcome for us in making DREAM and/or CIR a reality is through Obama. He has the best chance of creating a working majority in congress.
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I have to respectfully disagree with you on one point, Ianus. I do believe that who is elected on the Democratic side does make a difference. It is in our interest to have a Democratic nominee (and hopefully, president) who is capable of bringing both sides to the table. As we so painfully saw, a president's support of a bill does not necessarily mean it will come to fruition. This is not to say that Obama does not have his share of GOP detractors, but I get the sense that the GOP (or at the very least, the Conservative bloc of Congress) will be less amenable to compromise with someone they hate as much as Clinton.
true, Hilary is a less likable person in the senate, than Obama. Therefore, we should all be crossing our fingers for him. Both McCain and Obama are moderate, and "are capable of bringing both sides to the table" and both are pro-CIR, and dream act supporters, McCain just didn't vote for some reason.
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true, Hilary is a less likable person in the senate, than Obama. Therefore, we should all be crossing our fingers for him. Both McCain and Obama are moderate, and "are capable of bringing both sides to the table" and both are pro-CIR, and dream act supporters, McCain just didn't vote for some reason.

i would say that Obama is more on the LIBERAL side..
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