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Trump's promise to deport daca recipients will not be so easy

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11-10-2016, 11:21 PM
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https://news.vice.com/story/trumps-p...e-easy-to-keep

I AM CALLING ALL DREAMERS INTO ACTION!

Not right now, since Trump has not done anything yet. Heck, his promise to end ALL OF OBAMA'S Executive Order might have been just an election rhetoric nonsense that he really didn't mean. But if he did, if he does follow through, WE NEED TO BE READY TO ACT! Our politicians vouching for us are doing everything they can, but we need to give that push from behind to support them.

I have lived in the US for 15 years and I am a pharmacist only thanks to DACA. Many of you have similar story as I do. But what have WE done to deserve this? Do we deserve to be retreated as second- no, third rate citizen? To be given a semblance of status only to be taken away? When we have only worked hard to be productive and have committed no crimes whatsoever? When we have gone through elementary, middle school, high school, college, and graduate schools, and career all in the US?

What I am calling on everyone to do: When it is announced that DACA is rescinded by Trump, I would like to announce a date on here when to organize a GIGANTIC PROTEST in Washington DC. There are almost a million people who have received DACA, we need only a small fraction of that to make a difference. When I announce this date, I would like EVERYONE to tell other DACA recipients you know about this protest. I would give enough time for everyone on the other side of the Ocean to prepare, since this protest would need to last for weeks.

For those hesitating on openly fighting against this, I want you to read something called "The Melian Dialogue." It is the dialogue between the weak people of Melos and the powerful Athenians during the Peloponnesian War (around 400 B.C.). The people of Milos was weak, and Athenians were strong. Athenians wanted them to surrender their freedom, yet Melos did not. There was no way Melos could beat the Athenians.
The Melians were peaceful.
The Melians had freedom.
And the Melians, were destroyed.

I'm asking everyone here to think about this: What is it that you believe enough to march toward certain defeat? And defeated we will be for certain, Trump has said that "They [Dreamers] have to go" and he and the Republicans hold the Presidency, the Senate, and the House. When he cancels DACA, GONE will be your dreams of having a normal life depicted in any of the TV shows, such as "Friends" or "How I Met Your Mother." GONE will be your career, GONE will be your car or house ownership. The only life left for you here, with your degree which is rendered irrelevant, is getting a beneath-minimum wage under the hand paid job for the rest of your 20s, 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, and even 70s if you last that long.

I refuse to go down without a fight. What say you?
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11-10-2016, 11:34 PM
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I'm not fighting it.

Accept. Adjust. Adapt.
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I'm not fighting it.

Accept. Adjust. Adapt.
That's your choice. I think we should fight.
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11-10-2016, 11:52 PM
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If you dont fight, if you dont voice your opinions, then what you get in the coming years of your life is what you deserve.
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11-11-2016, 07:13 AM
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I like you.

You can bet there will be protests if he even announces his negative plans for DACA. Actually, that might be why he's so ambiguous about it.
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For those who want to keep fighting, good for you.

I'm going to be honest, I don't have the energy to fight on anymore. When we were fighting for Dream Act, I was 18 years old. I'm much older now and I just don't have the will and youth to keep fighting. If DACA got rescinded, I know I can't get back to the shadow after 4 years of normal life. I will move back to my birthplace and never look back. The American people have made their voice heard this election, they don't want us here.
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I think it's good that you guys are being proactive about it and that you want to fight it. I'm with you there. But marching/protesting doesn't feel right. If citizens want to do it, awesome! But these things are always done wrong... Flying Mexican flags or whatever other countries... Signs in Spanish... It's not good. We should be American first since we are asking to be able to stay here. But demanding something... It just doesn't seem right. We can fight it by being good citizens... Volunteering at non profits, donating, staying off free hand outs, not committing crimes... Staying humble... That's how you fight it.
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For those who want to keep fighting, good for you.

I'm going to be honest, I don't have the energy to fight on anymore. When we were fighting for Dream Act, I was 18 years old. I'm much older now and I just don't have the will and youth to keep fighting. If DACA got rescinded, I know I can't get back to the shadow after 4 years of normal life. I will move back to my birthplace and never look back. The American people have made their voice heard this election, they don't want us here.
I feel you.

However, I think this was their last stand. In 4 years, things should go back to normal. This is not a normal situation, look Trump did not win the majority vote. Sarah Palin will be in the cabinet and some really stupid people will be in charge of the country. This is not going to last.
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If you dont fight, if you dont voice your opinions, then what you get in the coming years of your life is what you deserve.
You sound like you're imprisoned here.

It's a big world.
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For those who want to keep fighting, good for you.

I'm going to be honest, I don't have the energy to fight on anymore. When we were fighting for Dream Act, I was 18 years old. I'm much older now and I just don't have the will and youth to keep fighting. If DACA got rescinded, I know I can't get back to the shadow after 4 years of normal life. I will move back to my birthplace and never look back. The American people have made their voice heard this election, they don't want us here.
I understand, but that's life so you just have to keep fighting. You will face tough situations in your birthplace country too and what to do? Keep fighting. Life itself is a struggle, so find what motivates you and keep going.
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