Trump backed town angry after ICE arrests beloved Mexican restaurant owner

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.raw...ant-owner/amp/


I can't post the article cuz I'm on my phone. I posted the link. He's not a criminal and has been in the country for 20 years and his wife and kids are US citizens. I don't know why they would go after him.

Two DUI convictions from 2007.

I literally just got done reading this article. Super sad.

Driving under the influence is no joke, i totally get that. But this is what i was trying to explain yesterday on that other thread that was locked. Is having two DUI's from 10 years ago enough to flat out uproot your entire life and be deported leaving 3 kids and a wife behind?

It just seems a bit cruel.

I'm just waiting for the dreamer to be deported for a parking ticket and y'all go "yup parking ticket in 2005 that SOB deserved it"

One of my uncles has one as well.

From 15 years ago.

It is only a matter of time until he gets caught.

Although this left me with some questions.

How exactly did he get on ICE's radar? There are no details on his arrest. I mean, what, did ICE just go into some database looking for convicted people with no legal status?

These days typically you fall into the hands of ICE if you're undocumented and are either accused, investigated, charged, or convicted of a crime. Or maybe if you happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time, as we have clearly seen that's been the case lately.

I guess we'll find out soon enough.

Hah! Totally.

I can definitely see some people on here reacting that way.

"Oh he jay-walked!? Deport him! We don't need no fucking scum of the earth like that!"

Judging by a sample of recent posts that I've read on this forum, it seems that many DREAMers are falling into the trap of the bad v. good immigrant narrative.

It's a right-wing divide and conquer tactic. They'll come for the 'bad' immigrants, and then for us. It's astonishing seeing DREAMers arguing for no due process, openly advocating for deportations, etc. Seeing deportations such as this is the canary in the coal mine. It is not something to cheer.

No, this isn't about identity politics as some of the right-wing users might want to pin my critique as. It's about economic oppression. Immigrants work here, pay taxes, and then with the slightest criminal conviction, they can be deported. Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for the Goldman Sachs executives to be locked up and deported to the tax haven of their choice.

If we want to win this narrative, we must realize why people feel the need to scapegoat immigrants. Income inequality (take a look at the gini coefficient) is a real problem in the US, especially in the flyover country that the Democrats wrote off. Some people may pin it down as racism, but that's merely the veil for the economic exploitation of groups of people (i.e, immigrants).

There's no trap. It's simply common sense, so perhaps i should make myself more clear if i haven't.

Denying due process is something that is going to end up probably in the Supreme Court, and it's obviously not going to hold up. We can lay that one to rest right there.

I expressed this very clearly yesterday on another thread, the fact that this gray area of enforcement is leaving many communities terrified. Broad discretion by agents gives them the authority to deport basically anyone from a murderer to someone who has a parking ticket, treating them the exact same way. That's terrifying, and obviously very wrong for all intents and purposes.

It can't go on forever. Lawsuits all over the place are going to overwhelm the administration to the point where they are going to have to clarify exactly how they are going to enforce immigration law and prioritize.

Immigration courts can't even handle the existing case load, so that's why they are trying to push expedited removals, but i sincerely doubt they are going to be able to implement that the way that they want to.

The issue is, as you did allude to, is that there's a vast amount of discretion. Now, lawsuits can be victorious, but they are insignificant if ICE agents do not wish to obey the law.

Andrew Jackson once said "John Marshall has made his decision; now let him enforce it!" in response to the decision handed down by SCOTUS in Worcester v. Georgia. Judging by Trump's recent comments regarding the judiciary, it seems rather clear that he does not respect judicial decisions.

The gray area of the law, even with proper due process, is not enough to prevent the deportations of people. Why? First of all, immigration judges have a wide disparity in how they handle cases. See: https://cronkitenews.azpbs.org/2016/...ranted-asylum/

(they're not judges in the same sense that you would find in a federal court)

And that doesn't take into account the fact that many immigrants cannot afford an immigration attorney to defend them. Nor are they entitled to a public defender.

Only the best will make it.