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DHS Releases New Stats on DACA (NOT GOOD FOR US)

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EXCLUSIVE – Nearly 60,000 immigrants with arrest records -- including 10 accused of murder -- have been allowed to stay in the United States under the Obama-era Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) program, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) revealed Monday.

According to DHS, 59,786 DACA recipients have been arrested while in the U.S. -- approximately 7.8 percent of all who have been approved to remain in this country under the program since it was created in 2012. Of those, 53,792 were arrested before their most recent request for a so-called "grant of deferred action" was approved. Another 7,814 were arrested after their request was approved.

The DHS statistics do not indicate how many of the arrested immigrants were convicted of crimes, nor do they indicate whether charges were reduced or dropped. They also do not indicate how many arrested DACA recipients were deported as the result of a conviction.

Francis Cissna, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) director, told “Fox & Friends" the agency wants to release as much data about DACA as possible for the public and lawmakers to be informed.

“I would like people to keep in mind . . . whatever they do, I would hope that we, at USCIS, would be able to turn down these people . . . if we think they’re a public safety threat . . . if someone is a gang member . . . even if they don’t have a conviction,” Cissna said.


A lot of channels picked this up. Not a good start on Monday for us.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...tay-in-us.html
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"...even if they don’t have a conviction,”

Okay this is scary, What on earth happened to innocent until proven guilty? I guess Dreamers don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
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"...even if they don’t have a conviction,”

Okay this is scary, What on earth happened to innocent until proven guilty? I guess Dreamers don't get the benefit of the doubt anymore.
Didn't you know? We are second class (illegal) citizens.
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Man, this is so misleading.

I'll provide a personal example of why this might be extremely messed up. So in the summer of 2012, I was on my way to work and had a green arrow to turn. A guy in a truck ran a red light, hit my car and totaled it. Thankfully, I was uninjured. However, I ended up having to go to court for not having a license.

This was literally a few weeks after DACA was announced by Obama and I had already sent in my application. I was literally just waiting for approval.

Anyway, I go to court, pay a fine or whatever, and I am extra careful not to get pulled over until I can get my license once my social security card and EAD arrive (I lived in a state where you couldn't get a license if you are undocumented).

Years later, in 2016, I got a job offer and I was given a start date on the condition that my background check came back fine and all that small stuff. I had never been in trouble with the law, and my driving without a license had never come up at any point since 2012. I get an e-mail from HR saying that I lied on my background check questionare because it shows that I have an arrest from 2012. I was so confused and worried! I was never ever in handcuffs, and to this day don't know why it shows up as an arrest. I ended up explaining everything to my employer and everything worked out fine.

I wonder if dumb things like this are inflating those statistics.
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Sucks and no wonder republicans want to have in place those strict rules.... fucking stay out of trouble idiots... as to the poster above me, why didn’t you figure out why it came out that you were “arrested”? I would’ve gone above and beyond to find out there is such a thing on my record....
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In before "Well, you should have stayed out of trouble". Not every arrest is the same, not every arrest means you're some thug, or even that you're guilty.

I don't understand why people still defend this administration when they do things like this. This does nothing but antagonize and tries to make DACA recipients out as bad people to derail any legislation.
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Man, this is so misleading.

I'll provide a personal example of why this might be extremely messed up. So in the summer of 2012, I was on my way to work and had a green arrow to turn. A guy in a truck ran a red light, hit my car and totaled it. Thankfully, I was uninjured. However, I ended up having to go to court for not having a license.

This was literally a few weeks after DACA was announced by Obama and I had already sent in my application. I was literally just waiting for approval.

Anyway, I go to court, pay a fine or whatever, and I am extra careful not to get pulled over until I can get my license once my social security card and EAD arrive (I lived in a state where you couldn't get a license if you are undocumented).

Years later, in 2016, I got a job offer and I was given a start date on the condition that my background check came back fine and all that small stuff. I had never been in trouble with the law, and my driving without a license had never come up at any point since 2012. I get an e-mail from HR saying that I lied on my background check questionare because it shows that I have an arrest from 2012. I was so confused and worried! I was never ever in handcuffs, and to this day don't know why it shows up as an arrest. I ended up explaining everything to my employer and everything worked out fine.

I wonder if dumb things like this are inflating those statistics.
Woah, is there any way you could clear that from your record? I would hire an attorney to fight it.
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Man, this is so misleading.

I'll provide a personal example of why this might be extremely messed up. So in the summer of 2012, I was on my way to work and had a green arrow to turn. A guy in a truck ran a red light, hit my car and totaled it. Thankfully, I was uninjured. However, I ended up having to go to court for not having a license.

This was literally a few weeks after DACA was announced by Obama and I had already sent in my application. I was literally just waiting for approval.

Anyway, I go to court, pay a fine or whatever, and I am extra careful not to get pulled over until I can get my license once my social security card and EAD arrive (I lived in a state where you couldn't get a license if you are undocumented).

Years later, in 2016, I got a job offer and I was given a start date on the condition that my background check came back fine and all that small stuff. I had never been in trouble with the law, and my driving without a license had never come up at any point since 2012. I get an e-mail from HR saying that I lied on my background check questionare because it shows that I have an arrest from 2012. I was so confused and worried! I was never ever in handcuffs, and to this day don't know why it shows up as an arrest. I ended up explaining everything to my employer and everything worked out fine.

I wonder if dumb things like this are inflating those statistics.
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