Biden to meet with Manchin, Sinema on party-line megabill

https://www.yahoo.com/news/biden-mee...081321874.html


President Joe Biden is set to meet with Democrats’ two most prominent holdouts on their massive social spending package: Joe Manchin and Kyrsten Sinema.

The president will host Sinema on Wednesday morning and then Manchin on Wednesday evening, according to people familiar with the meeting. Both centrist senators are resisting other Democrats’ goal of spending as much as $3.5 trillion on social programs, climate action and safety net expansion.

The move by Biden shows he is moving directly to arbitrate what’s become a messy fight in the Democratic caucus. During a lunch on Tuesday, Manchin reiterated his hopes to pause the spending package, according to an attendee, a statement that met with crickets.

Democrats had hoped to write their bill by today, an impossibility given the internal handwringing. And they have no margin for error: They need all 50 Democratic senators to sign onto any legislation via budget reconciliation, which skirts a GOP filibuster but demands lockstep unity in an evenly split Senate.

The Manchin and Sinema meetings were first reported by The Washington Post.

This is what people here wanted, for Biden himself to press on them. Let’s see what the never-pleased cry about now…

I find it so confusing how the people in this forum think manchin and sinema are who are stopping the immigration provisions. Neither of them have even brought up the immigration provisions and yet the people on this forum still think they are against it. Machin and Sinema have repeatedly said they have an issue with the total cost of the bill which is 3.5 trillion. If you were to remove the dreamer/tps/ded stuff from the bill the roughly 3.5 trillion dollar bill would still be...

~3.5 trillion because the dreamer/tps/ded stuff only has 2.8 billion allocated to it.

For some reason the people of this forum think that manchin and sinema care so much about 0.08% of the bill.

What they have brought up is the child tax care credit, environmental measures, and other social safety net programs. which make up FAR more then 0.08% of the bill.

The only roadblock we face is what the parliamentarian has to say. NOT manchin or sinema.

we still need their votes

Biden needs to be firm and tell them to either get on board or be prepared to get primary come election time.

I do not agree.

Biden should listen to their concerns and negotiate in good faith. If they're serious, both sides should meet in the middle, eventually reach common grounds and finally a deal...

If you think Manchin and Sinema are going to negotiate in “good faith” then your in for a rude awakening. Those 2 people care more about getting the stamp of approval from the Republican Party. There is no common ground with either of them.

Not even Jon Tester who’s a Democrat representing the State of Montana is this radical like Manchin & Sinema.

Bingo. We have to cut this "in good faith" bullshit because it does not apply to them the way people think it does. They can go to sleep soundly knowing very well they can (or will) fuck over tons of people in an instant, don't kid yourselves otherwise.

This is the same attitude that hasn't gotten us anywhere. Republicans don't give a shit about "good faith" as long as what they want gets done, to hell with whoever they bulldoze during the process.

If it's black and white as you put it then forget about deal and a solution for DACA. Manchin will vote no per his position.

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