Democrats get hopeful sign from parliamentarian on immigration

VJB2 · 11-23-2021, 09:06 PM

I won't be satisfied until the complete bill is on Biden's desk with immigration benefits, but here's something:

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Democrats got a hopeful sign from the Senate rules referee Tuesday in their effort to include provisions for undocumented immigrants in the $1.75 trillion "human" infrastructure bill they hope to pass through the partisan reconciliation process.

Driving the news: The Senate parliamentarian met with Democratic staff about the immigration provisions and did not rule out their inclusion in President Biden's Build Back Better agenda, sources familiar with the meeting told Axios.

The provisions in question would allow millions of undocumented immigrants to apply for work permits, permission to travel and to receive temporary protection from deportation.

The official ruling is expected in the coming weeks, although no date is yet set, the sources said.

Why it matters: Democrats have promised to pursue immigration reform through the legislation that's also focused on expanding the social safety net and addressing climate change.

Their two previous proposals were turned away by the Senate parliamentarian.
Two people familiar with discussions described the outcome of Tuesday's meeting as a positive sign.

The Senate Parliamentarian did not accept, reject or recommend changes to the proposal — only moving it along to a formal test of budgetary effects in which both parties will be able to make their case to the parliamentarian.

Flashback: The two previous plans rejected by the Senate parliamentarian offered legal permanent residency.

Plan A — A proposal to provided as many as 8 million undocumented immigrants a pathway to citizenship was rejected in an official “Byrd Bath," a vet to see if it has a budgetary effect and, therefore, can be included in a reconciliation bill.

Plan B — A move to update an outdated immigration registry to provide green cards for some undocumented immigrants was rejected during another review.

The parliamentarian later called it a “weighty policy change” not budgetary in nature.

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Hallowpoint1911 · 11-23-2021, 09:18 PM

Let us hope this gets approved.

Outsider626 · 11:22 PM

Same DACA only for 5 years (x2). And an excuse for Dems to kick the can down the road for another 10 years.

Travel option is the same Advance Parole that we currently have. You will not be able to travel freely.

I rather reapply for Daca every 2 years than this.

DACA will never die regardless.

dreamer12345 · 11:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626

Same DACA only for 5 years (x2). And an excuse for Dems to kick the can down the road for another 10 years.

I rather reapply for Daca every 2 years than this.

DACA will never die regardless.

dems are perpetual losers. If her majesty the Parlamentarian is fine w/this, she'd have been fine w/dream act, and if she wasn't, 80% of the electorate would be yelling "off w/her head".

dtrt09 · 11-23-2021, 11:28 PM

Get rid of the filibuster save voters' rights and path to citizenship.

Happy Thanksgiving!!

Stay safe.

hDreamer1988 · 11-24-2021, 01:27 AM

If this passes, it creates a necessity in congress to renew every 10 years. IF close to 7 million people enter get permits, enter the workforce, and contribute; it becomes too big to fail or to end. Ending a program like that and essentially forcing millions out of the workforce would decimate the economy to the point it may not recover by the next election cycle. DACA or TPS is too small to really have lasting impacts.... but 7MM would give us safety in numbers.

A lot of the GOP haters would say Republicans won't care but they really would. You would see a major market crash and that would cost them millions in their personal investments.

bigdreamer2010 · 11-24-2021, 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by hDreamer1988

If this passes, it creates a necessity in congress to renew every 10 years. IF close to 7 million people enter get permits, enter the workforce, and contribute; it becomes too big to fail or to end. Ending a program like that and essentially forcing millions out of the workforce would decimate the economy to the point it may not recover by the next election cycle. DACA or TPS is too small to really have lasting impacts.... but 7MM would give us safety in numbers.

A lot of the GOP haters would say Republicans won't care but they really would. You would see a major market crash and that would cost them millions in their personal investments.

^He gets it.

It’s not what we wanted but it’s decent. It’ll help out a lot of ppl. Work authorization and a drivers license will change lives.

davidrellis · 11-24-2021, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Outsider626

Same DACA only for 5 years (x2). And an excuse for Dems to kick the can down the road for another 10 years.

Travel option is the same Advance Parole that we currently have. You will not be able to travel freely.

I rather reapply for Daca every 2 years than this.

DACA will never die regardless.

How do you know is the same as advance parole?

NK74 · 11-24-2021, 11:30 AM

The unofficial meeting with the parliamentian is a pretty important step because if anything, the legislators get a good idea -if not an explicit one- of what the parliamentarian will approve.

frbc13 · 11-24-2021, 12:09 PM

1 time renewable 5 year permit for MLK day 2021?

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