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Ask not what you can do for Obama, Ask what Obama can Do for you

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10-09-2008, 02:22 PM
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Read this article from Newsweek. The situation that Darman speaks of is not quite the same as ours, but it is along the same premise.


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‘Ask Not What You Can Do For Barack Obama, Ask What Barack Obama Can Do For You’


Jonathan Darman
NEWSWEEK
From the magazine issue dated Oct 6, 2008

Dear Young Americans:

I won't tell you how special you are because you've heard it before. For the past nine months, the mainstream media have showered you with adulation. Before the Iowa caucuses, Barack Obama's campaign said you'd be his secret weapon, showing up for him like you'd never shown up for a presidential candidate before. Reporters didn't believe it; they'd seen that MTV special before, heard about the hidden youth vote and knew it never panned out.

But you proved them wrong; you did pan out. You surprised the media, and the media like nothing more than a surprise. Since then it's been a nonstop lovefest—your reputation is secure as the most idealistic and engaged group of young people since the '60s, an optimistic lot who believe that Obama really is different from all the rest. You've made his rallies into cultural events, his candidacy into a movement. You've done what no one thought was possible: you've made politics seem cool again.

So I don't have to tell you how special you are—which is good, because I don't think you're particularly special. Then again, I'm one of you, so I wouldn't. Born in 1981, I am part of a generation that is accustomed to being coddled and cheered and championed, even when we haven't done much at all. It started in the cradle when our baby-boomer parents gazed into our innocent faces and saw perfect, wondrous reflections of their perfect, wondrous selves. It continued as soccer coaches and ballet teachers turned into SAT tutors and career counselors—people whose job was to make sure the world understood just how wonderful we were. The Internet sealed our fate. Our parents and grandparents, enthralled and a little terrified by the transformative power of technology, watched as we neatly picked up our lives and moved them into HTML. We learned to expect applause for simply showing up.

And really, if we're honest, that's all you've done this year—show up. You voted (umm … you're supposed to vote). You didn't get hung up on a candidate's race (umm … you're not supposed to care about race). Your one lasting gift to political posterity this year: the text message. Greatest Generation, watch your back.

All this would be fine with me—who doesn't like praise?—if it weren't for the sneaking suspicion that for all your earnestness and self-congratulation, you haven't done enough. True, Obama may well win the White House about a month from now. If he does, after African-Americans, people our age will deserve the largest share of credit for putting him there. But despite all the enthusiasm for Obama, you, his young supporters, have done little to ensure he'll be the kind of transformative leader you long for. Your biggest failure: you've hardly asked Obama for a thing.

No doubt, this failure makes you look virtuous—you are above the politics of personal interest. But no generation of young people, except maybe the radicalized '60s youth, has ever organized as an interest group. The problem is, on his long road to the White House, Obama has met plenty of groups who do want something from him. He has encountered senior citizens who worry about what he'll do to their Social Security checks, union members who worry he'll trade away their jobs and small businessmen who worry he'll tax them into oblivion. These people are not as enamored of him as you are and have made it clear that he has to work for their vote. He's taken their challenge, making promises to each of these old interest groups that, in the White House, he'll look out for them.

Chances are, if he makes it there, he will. From the moment he takes his hand off the Bible on Inauguration Day, a President Obama will want the same thing as any first-term president: a second term. The metric by which the country will judge his worthiness for this prize is: did he get something done? So Obama, a cool rationalist at heart, will work diligently to produce a reform agenda. The easiest way to do that? Working with the Democratic majorities in both houses of Congress he is almost certain to have.

Here's where the trouble for young people starts. Those Democratic majorities don't owe it all to you. They owe just as much to the groups that have traditionally put Democrats into Congress: the old coalition of labor unions, urban affluents and minorities. Their agenda will be tailored to the short-term concerns of those interest groups, not the long-term benefit of the young. That's a shame because what's in young people's interest—a sound fiscal policy, a solution to the entitlement crisis, a robust approach to global trade and a realistic plan to address climate change—also happens, by definition, to be in the nation's long-term interest.

Get selfish before it's too late. The financial crisis is horrible news for everyone—rich and poor, young and old. But the fact that it coincides with the presidential debates—the last gasp of substance in the campaign—provides a unique opportunity for you to ask Obama to choose you. With the new fiscal reality, neither he nor John McCain should get away with promising everyone what he or she wants. In debates they will be pressed to explain their priorities. Seize this opportunity. To get the best of Obama, young people, cut out the blind devotion. Get off the Huffington Post. Stop the Facebook blasts. If you really want to be the change you've been waiting for, start holding Obama to some of his promises to our generation. In these waning days of the campaign, ask not what you can do for Barack Obama, ask what Barack Obama can do for you.

Of course, asking is easier said than done. What exactly should you ask Obama for?

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Yes, backing Obama is great. But most people who are backing Obama are supporting him blindly. Demand something of him.



It is all too blatantly obvious that we are not exactly the “young people” that Darman mentions; we are not American citizens, we cannot vote (most of us anyway). But we have to take the ideals of demanding something of a presidential candidate to our own hearts. We need to let our voices be heard, that we still yearn desperately for the Dream Act to pass every single day. We need to contact Obama through e-mail, phone calls, his campaign trail- we have to do SOMETHING to remind Obama that we, the forsaken Americans are still here.

So remind yourself and everyone you know- Ask not what you can do for Obama, ask what Obama can do for you
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10-09-2008, 02:49 PM
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This is great, thank you.
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yes. And mostly people are blindly following a candidate without doing some serious research.
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yes, but we've blindly supported him BECAUSE of his support of Dream act and his promise. That is arguably the ONLY reason almost everyone here supports Obama. Of course, after he gets elected, we will demand it of him. Right now, he already said he will... plus we wanna fly under the radar for now.
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yes. And mostly people are blindly following a candidate without doing some serious research.
i hope that is not an insult against obama. i am not saying obama is perfect but he is a far better off candidate then Mccain. Especially when the dream act is concerned.

and this thread was not about the validity of Obama as a presidential candidate. It was a call to all dream act hopefuls to get more involved
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Obama supports Dream Act. He has said it on atleast two occasions. My priorities are:
Dream Act
Economy
Solving the Energy crisis
Making America safer against terrorist attacks (I live pretty close to NYC)

This is why i support Senator Obama.
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10-16-2008, 07:56 PM
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I supported Obama even before I heard about DREAM act.

My priorities:
Getting this country out of this recession (Obama has more of a level head)
Education funding (while both tickets seem to support education, the GOP screwed up No Child Left Behind by not funding it- something Obama pointed out - and establishing the same standards for all students, in spite of the existence of severe learning disabilities).
Transit and Amtrak funding (I consider transit to be an important and necessary part of our transportation system, and I consider our national railroad to be a potential source of national pride IF we work at making it a good railroad. France has her TGV, Japan has her Shinkansen, China has her maglevs and rail-building, and what do we have? Some semi-high-speed trainsets coping with other trains on existing railroad lines, and passenger trains getting so delayed by freight that our long distance service is like a third-world country's - unacceptable).
Energy/global warming crisis (inseperable in my mind, as oil is responsible for much of the global warming to begin with, along with other fossil fuels)
Basing taxes on income, because the rich can afford to pay more of their income than the poor. (I am somewhat Keynesian and I advocate deficit spending to get us out of this funk, but I also advocate deregulation after that spending to help the economy grow and ease the deficit. Furthermore, sales taxes aren't as acceptable to me as income taxes because they're regressive; the poor spend a larger percentage of their money on sales taxes than the rich do, while income taxes are progressive - they take a bigger chunk of income out of wealthy pockets. Don't worry, Mr. Scrooge - you can still keep your limo and your private yacht, you just have to invest more of the excess income and forego the caviar on the side.)

I'm adding DREAM to that.
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yes, but we've blindly supported him BECAUSE of his support of Dream act and his promise. That is arguably the ONLY reason almost everyone here supports Obama. Of course, after he gets elected, we will demand it of him. Right now, he already said he will... plus we wanna fly under the radar for now.
Many of us only care for that part of his platform. The rest--the economy, health care, the energy crisis--are just beneficial add-ons.

Hell, I'll say it right now. I support Obama only because of the DREAM Act. Sure, his policies on health care, the ecnomy, and the energy crisis are fine and dandy, but I don't know enough of those things to make an informed decision and opinion.

What I know best out of those four concepts is DREAM, so why wouldn't I--and other members of the undocumented community--base our support for Obama on just that?

I guess if I were voting in this election, I would be rather uninformed.
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Many of us only care for that part of his platform. The rest--the economy, health care, the energy crisis--are just beneficial add-ons.

Hell, I'll say it right now. I support Obama only because of the DREAM Act. Sure, his policies on health care, the ecnomy, and the energy crisis are fine and dandy, but I don't know enough of those things to make an informed decision and opinion.

What I know best out of those four concepts is DREAM, so why wouldn't I--and other members of the undocumented community--base our support for Obama on just that?

I guess if I were voting in this election, I would be rather uninformed.
hahha I agree, when I watch the news I am soooo biased. Whenever a negative Obama ad or comment is on tv I start to get mad. I blindly defend him and put his sticker on the back of my car... despite the fact that I am a southern baptist Christian, which makes me a republican at heart. But of course, being a poor working class illegal immigrant makes me a democrat on paper.
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hahha I agree, when I watch the news I am soooo biased. Whenever a negative Obama ad or comment is on tv I start to get mad. I blindly defend him and put his sticker on the back of my car... despite the fact that I am a southern baptist Christian, which makes me a republican at heart. But of course, being a poor working class illegal immigrant makes me a democrat on paper.
haha i know what you mean about getting angry. I'm angry as hell at the entire republican party for not being smart enough or care enough about immigration. Old racist people who are mostly ignorant are currently running the republican party.
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