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eva02 10-03-2017 02:15 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by spolem (Post 645046)
Aged out DREAMers fought for what is now DACA. Is not fair to them to pass a bill that only includes current DACA holders. What about expired DREAMers due to USCIS fault, younger DREAMers or DREAMers that for any reason were not able to renew.

48K that haven't renewed by oct 5th

jaylove16 10-03-2017 02:20 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Cotton is talking as if he has any clout lmao . He is in the very minority even amongst republicans and he’s trying to make himself relevant. He is just like sesssions , he can have raise Act attached to it and he’ll still find a reason to vote against a final bill. We have seen this game before.

Swim19 10-03-2017 02:25 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 645047)
Guys why are you people all up in arms? Trump doesn’t dictate the contents of a bill. Any bill will be favorable to us dreamers and not only DACA holders .

My worry is this is the way they kill any compromise.

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 02:25 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
i wish i was 6'5 and 250 pounds

life was never fair

unthinkable 10-03-2017 02:28 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 645049)
48K that haven't renewed by oct 5th

hey bebe. Are you a grill?

eva02 10-03-2017 02:31 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by unthinkable (Post 645054)
hey bebe. Are you a grill?

I'm a gay

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 02:31 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by spolem (Post 645046)
Aged out DREAMers fought for what is now DACA. Is not fair to them to pass a bill that only includes current DACA holders. What about expired DREAMers due to USCIS fault, younger DREAMers or DREAMers that for any reason were not able to renew.

we will fight for them once we are legal

some of us need to get legal first to be really effectivw

jaylove16 10-03-2017 02:32 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 645052)
My worry is this is the way they kill any compromise.

Did you watch the hearing today? I think we will just be fine . Every side comes with their demands and I’m sure the senate judiciary can work something satisfactory out .

DACA-IR-DA 10-03-2017 02:32 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
We want no age cap and want original Dreamers qualified from 2001.

Swim19 10-03-2017 02:35 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by jaylove16 (Post 645058)
Did you watch the hearing today? I think we will just be fine . Every side comes with their demands and I’m sure the senate judiciary can work something satisfactory out .

Not yet. Watching it when I get home from work. I read tweets about it, but I did not hear it for myself.

JJ Glo 10-03-2017 02:37 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 645053)
i wish i was 6'5 and 250 pounds

life was never fair

Some things are out of our control, others we get to decide.

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 02:39 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
in all honesty, the ultimate deal would be current dacaers + border security

that way each side has given up something

and it is a perfect deal that will pass easily

VJB2 10-03-2017 02:44 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
I like it better when we're all on one side and we form against those are trying to slow us down (UWD, DACA people pushing for more than we all know will never pass) instead of arguing with each other as if we know anything for sure or have any say on the final bill and/or votes.

vft1008 10-03-2017 02:45 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
No one said things would be fair.

Something is something and I'll take it.

dreamer__13 10-03-2017 02:49 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by vft1008 (Post 645070)
No one said things would be fair.

Something is something and I'll take it.

I’ll take anything too. I’m ok with being called a hoe for that. Hoe me up.

dtrt09 10-03-2017 02:53 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Border protection for DreamAct, not just Daca. And everify has to come w legalization otherwise it does not work.

Legalizing only Daca is leaving half of childhood arrivals out. No. These hardliners want everything in enforcement, demand that evetybody else be speedily deported and leave aged out Dreamers plus those too young to apply yet out?
No way.
Pelosi, Schumer, Durbin need to demand DreamAct as the minimum in exchange of all these things.

JayR9 10-03-2017 03:04 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 645018)
fight for cir later when we are legalized

imagine 800k more dem voters

they will be taken care of!

Either you're very selfish or just not very intelligent.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-03-2017 03:14 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
I wonder if half of you saying "we can't have everything!! This is a good start!!" Would
Be happy if trump literally meant DACa holders who expire before March 5 ONLY.


"But but that doesn't make sense!!"


Remember Succeed Act before we learned what it actually was how many of you were eager to get that passed? 2MoreYears I am looking st your

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 03:26 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by JayR9 (Post 645075)
Either you're very selfish or just not very intelligent.

I want dacaers to have legal status

Call me whatever you want

Lambo Mercy 10-03-2017 03:26 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Aight just get it done

unthinkable 10-03-2017 03:34 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 645049)
48K that haven't renewed by oct 5th

Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 645055)
I'm a gay

Are you a gay grill?

isk84life 10-03-2017 03:36 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by bad.bunny (Post 645006)
i dont think democrats are willing to compromise e-verify and all of these super tough enforcements which would put a number of the undocumented population at risk just to legalize 800k dreamers.

The DHS said there are currently only 500k+ not 800k.

bad.bunny 10-03-2017 03:36 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 645083)
I want dacaers to have legal status

Call me whatever you want

what about your family that brought you here and contributed to the economy?

fl_dreamer 10-03-2017 03:37 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
I wish older dreamers would be covered but as mentioned several times before, the current version of the DA is too liberal. You CANNOT include individuals who came here AFTER DACA was issued. We are walking right into GOP's argument that "Amnesty encourages illegal immigration".

bad.bunny 10-03-2017 03:37 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 645087)
The DHS said there are currently only 500k+ not 800k.

even worse since some expired, failed to renew and have pending apps

isk84life 10-03-2017 03:37 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 645009)
we all knew it would not be easy

everify or no daca, no future

your choice

I'm not going to damage other people just to help me or you. Sorry. I guess "no future" lol

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 03:42 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 645091)
I'm not going to damage other people just to help me or you. Sorry. I guess "no future" lol

But you are damaging 800k dacaers future

isk84life 10-03-2017 03:45 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 645095)
But you are damaging 800k dacaers future

Sorry man, you are not just as valuable as you think you are. I aint going to throw parents to the wolves to give status to selfish people like you. That's it from me. Not going to argue with you.

Pianoswithoutfaith 10-03-2017 03:46 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 645096)
Sorry man, you are not just as valuable as you think you are. I aint going to throw parents to the wolves to give status to selfish people like you. That's it from me. Not going to argue with you.

This


Read my signature

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 03:49 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 645096)
Sorry man, you are not just as valuable as you think you are. I aint going to throw parents to the wolves to give status to selfish people like you. That's it from me. Not going to argue with you.

i am valuable to you as you are to me

you know Trump admin is going after undocs without criminal history, right?

Trump admin is already going after your parents

It is just matter of time

One wrong move - is all it gonna take

Got_Daca 10-03-2017 03:51 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
you cant defend your position logically because you know i am right

you are for destroying 800k young futures

you d happily do it if you had the chance

take about selfish! you are selfish for your family!

same shit

catportal 10-03-2017 04:40 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
everify will never happen, republican donors don't want it!

JayR9 10-03-2017 05:42 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Got_Daca (Post 645099)
you cant defend your position logically because you know i am right

you are for destroying 800k young futures

you d happily do it if you had the chance

take about selfish! you are selfish for your family!

same shit

You're horribly wrong and just fearmongering on the forum. There so much leverage that still can be played by Democrats that we don't have to accept shit deal like the SUCCEED ACT or a DA lite bill. All you're doing is creating a division in the Dreamer group. If Dreamers were to be firm and cohesive on what they're willing to accept and then there is power there. If Dreamers were to break up into different fractions then you have a small voice which will fall on deaf ears.

ceaguila 10-03-2017 07:15 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
So since he changes his mind all the time depending on who he talked to the last time, they moved him way to the right..

Sorrybrah 10-03-2017 09:17 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
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Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 645096)
Sorry man, you are not just as valuable as you think you are. I aint going to throw parents to the wolves to give status to selfish people like you. That's it from me. Not going to argue with you.

I am a selfish motherphucker but I second you. This time it's out of the line.

desice 10-03-2017 11:33 PM

Re: GOP lawmakers say Trump wants tough measures in Dreamers deal
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by isk84life (Post 645096)
Sorry man, you are not just as valuable as you think you are. I aint going to throw parents to the wolves to give status to selfish people like you. That's it from me. Not going to argue with you.

respect


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