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Smooth 12-04-2017 11:28 PM

Re: Cornyn: Immigration talks are 'at an impasse'
 
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Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 656977)
NEVER FORGET.

Paul Ryan Tells Conservatives DACA Will Be Part Of Spending Deal
The Speaker also said he didn’t think Obamacare subsidies would be part of the deal, but it could still be a huge win for Democrats and undocumented immigrants.

October 25, 2017

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry...b0b7e63265bb76

I remember this. The GOP is going to give in. F*ck... are we....are we going to get legalized?!!!!!

desice 12-04-2017 11:29 PM

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ceaguila 12-04-2017 11:35 PM

Re: Cornyn: Immigration talks are 'at an impasse'
 
What happened with the letter 70 GOP members were supposed to write? I hope that happens soon!

JayR9 12-05-2017 01:07 AM

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Originally Posted by IamAman (Post 656919)
Many Republicans will never agree to any immigrant friendly laws. It's almost like they hate immigrants...even kids.

well those that can't, can fuck themselves, we are getting what we deserve

Ianus 12-05-2017 09:26 AM

Re: Cornyn: Immigration talks are 'at an impasse'
 
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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 656989)
What happened with the letter 70 GOP members were supposed to write? I hope that happens soon!

Most within the House GOP will not out of fear of their leadership. They could lose rank and "respect" within their conference.

nydreamer 12-05-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by catportal (Post 656935)
Yes, the options posted require ALL parties to hold their positions.
If Freedom Caucus gives in, it's up to Dem's to keep gov closed.
If 3 Sen give in, it's up to Dem's to keep gov closed.
If Freedom Caucus gives in AND nuclear option is used, we lose.
If Dem's give in we lose.

Nice summary. What exactly is the nuclear option and how does it work?

eva02 12-05-2017 10:57 AM

Re: Cornyn: Immigration talks are 'at an impasse'
 
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Originally Posted by nydreamer (Post 657061)
Nice summary. What exactly is the nuclear option and how does it work?

Nuclear option would get rid of the filibuster. I doubt republicans would do that especially since the 2018 elections are going to be horrible for them and they will be back to a minority party

Demise 12-05-2017 12:53 PM

Re: Cornyn: Immigration talks are 'at an impasse'
 
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Originally Posted by nydreamer (Post 657061)
Nice summary. What exactly is the nuclear option and how does it work?

Nuclear option is a change of senate rules by simple majority. Normally changing a rule requires 2/3rds majority. Nuclear option requires only a simple majority.

Thing is that nuclear option raises a constitutional challenge to a rule. By invoking it you are setting a precedent. The genie is out of the bottle and there's no way for you to put it back in.

Thing is that McConnell stonewalled democrats for the entirety of Obama presidency, he knows that's a tool that basically keeps republicans from going extinct. Imagine all of the progressive agenda passing with simple majority under a democratic trifecta?

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Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 657066)
Nuclear option would get rid of the filibuster. I doubt republicans would do that especially since the 2018 elections are going to be horrible for them and they will be back to a minority party

2018 isn't going to be that bad because it's really an uphill senate battle for us. Since democrats are defending 25 seats and republicans only 8. Still, the way things are looking with Trump being an unpopular turd I think democrats have a chance of holding what they have or even snagging a seat or two. Winning majority is unlikely but possible.

always_learner11 12-05-2017 01:33 PM

Re: Cornyn: Immigration talks are 'at an impasse'
 
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Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 656989)
What happened with the letter 70 GOP members were supposed to write? I hope that happens soon!

This might be it, 34 House Republicans.

Link to article.

Link to letter.

Quote:

We are compelled to act immediately because many DACA recipients are about to lose or have already lost their permits in the wake of the program’s rescission. Not acting is creating understandable uncertainty and anxiety amongst immigrant communities
*bold added


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