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Smooth 09-18-2011 10:13 PM

Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Hello everyone,

I might be stupid for suggesting this. But, do any of you think that the governments of Canada or the UK would help us out in terms of immigrating to their countries under a bill like the DA if we got their attention via a petition or something???????

elihu 09-18-2011 10:25 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Well, you may or may not be.

But what are you actually suggesting we petition for?

Smooth 09-18-2011 10:37 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
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Originally Posted by elihu (Post 234502)
Well, you may or may not be.

But what are you actually suggesting we petition for?

Immigrating to Canada or the UK is super risky. Perhaps, we could make an international plea based on human rights for one of these countries to help us by letting us immigrate through a special bill, utlimately allowing us to accomplish our goals and contribute to their economic development

MalditoDuende 09-18-2011 11:32 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
rather go back to Mexico than do that. Has it came across your mind that maybe people in those countries dont want us there. I've researched this online and theres a lot of racism especially in Europe..

CB124 09-19-2011 01:07 AM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
When the Dream Act got defeated in December, Hugo Chavez invited all the dreamers to Venezuela

elihu 09-19-2011 02:18 AM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
So that's been his ploy the whole time. He wants me home. :P

Actually, I agree with MalditoDuende. Most of the developed countries aren't exactly jumping at the idea of increased immigration. The U.S. is the best hope, in that respect.

2Face 09-19-2011 01:21 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
This has been discussed before. One of our fellow members TIKVA I believe contacted the Canadian embassy about this. Plz try searching for the thread in the lounge. Its a great initiative but I really doubt another government would go all out when our own government doesn't give a crap. Canada would have to completely revise their immigration requirements and create a new way for us to move there.

CB124 09-19-2011 03:49 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Depends on the country. Some of the european ones are flooded with immigrants, and I don't think they will be of much help to you.

ivan81 09-19-2011 03:55 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Canada might be a good option. The US would not look to good if its northern neighbor took us in.

dreamy14 09-20-2011 02:09 AM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
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Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 234504)
Immigrating to Canada or the UK is super risky. Perhaps, we could make an international plea based on human rights for one of these countries to help us by letting us immigrate through a special bill, utlimately allowing us to accomplish our goals and contribute to their economic development

Well, this doesn't necessarily have to do with immigration, but theres always the U.N. who supports and promote human rights. Amnesty international, a branch of UN organization (no, it does not have anything to do with immigration amnesty btw), is targetting injustice like descrimination and violating education rights which could very much be affected with our situation. If we can find a way to tie our situation with some of the issues they're fighting, then we can possibly campaign for their support. It could be possible.

here's their website, and some info to check out:
http://www.amnesty.org/en
http://www.amnesty.org/en/human-righ...ights-by-topic

2Face 09-20-2011 01:17 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
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Originally Posted by dreamy14 (Post 234661)
Well, this doesn't necessarily have to do with immigration, but theres always the U.N. who supports and promote human rights. Amnesty international, a branch of UN organization (no, it does not have anything to do with immigration amnesty btw), is targetting injustice like descrimination and violating education rights which could very much be affected with our situation. If we can find a way to tie our situation with some of the issues they're fighting, then we can possibly campaign for their support. It could be possible.

here's their website, and some info to check out:
http://www.amnesty.org/en
http://www.amnesty.org/en/human-righ...ights-by-topic

Indeed. We could also argue that many of us are having a tough time putting food on our family's dinner table. Its very difficult to get jobs and I'm sure many are still sitting home in despair. Now that we are here in USA, there is no other choice. We're sorry but Dream Act is the answer.

elihu 09-20-2011 01:57 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dreamy14 (Post 234661)
Well, this doesn't necessarily have to do with immigration, but theres always the U.N. who supports and promote human rights. Amnesty international, a branch of UN organization (no, it does not have anything to do with immigration amnesty btw), is targetting injustice like descrimination and violating education rights which could very much be affected with our situation. If we can find a way to tie our situation with some of the issues they're fighting, then we can possibly campaign for their support. It could be possible.

I work a bit with Amnesty, and we were out making calls to Senators and Representatives in favor of the DREAM Act and a few other immigration things last year. I'm pretty sure we have their support.

dreamy14 09-20-2011 09:01 PM

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^^

That's great news! I work a bit with them too. AI actually has quarters/organization worldwide, and if often those that are in your region would get together to talk about topics. None has been put forward about immigration yet here in my area, but the issue is definitely there. I think it's a HUGE part of the reason why laws like SB1070 and the Alabama bill can't be implemented on it's own. Both bills would lead to descrimination and violation of rights to educate (banning k-12 schooling for undocs, please!), and the USA can't afford to have a bad rep with the UN.

Also since human rights goes beyond lawful documents and government rules, you don't have to be a "legal permanent immigrant" to fight for it.

dreamy14 09-23-2011 03:10 AM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by elihu (Post 234705)
I work a bit with Amnesty, and we were out making calls to Senators and Representatives in favor of the DREAM Act and a few other immigration things last year. I'm pretty sure we have their support.

BTW....yes they %100 are:
http://www.amnestyusa.org/events/wor...hts-defender-0

CB124 10-01-2011 01:39 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
I don't think that would work. You will say "Help us out" and they will say "why not use your education in your home country" and you will say "because its poor and smelly and I'm too good for it and I want a first world country. Help us out." I don't think it will work.

cooltalker 10-03-2011 09:32 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 235788)
I don't think that would work. You will say "Help us out" and they will say "why not use your education in your home country" and you will say "because its poor and smelly and I'm too good for it and I want a first world country. Help us out." I don't think it will work.

You took the words out of my mouth.

zerx 10-04-2011 08:14 AM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by CB124 (Post 235788)
I don't think that would work. You will say "Help us out" and they will say "why not use your education in your home country" and you will say "because its poor and smelly and I'm too good for it and I want a first world country. Help us out." I don't think it will work.

I'm sure there are people who don't want to return because of that but I think it's offensive to generalize all of us like that. It's honorable that you went back to your country to help out but you shouldn't look down on other people making different choices.

On topic: this won't work and I don't see it growing much either.

CB124 10-04-2011 06:52 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
I'm sorry about that, just trying to put myself in their shoes, thats all

Smooth 10-04-2011 11:31 PM

Re: Good idea to make an international call for help from Canada or Uk to help us?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by zerx (Post 236027)
I'm sure there are people who don't want to return because of that but I think it's offensive to generalize all of us like that. It's honorable that you went back to your country to help out but you shouldn't look down on other people making different choices.

On topic: this won't work and I don't see it growing much either
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Fair enough. It's just a discussion question. Things will change in the US. :- )


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