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eva02 01-07-2018 05:28 PM

New DACA tweets
 
@ChadPergram
Top Dem on Hse Homeland Security Cmte Thompson on GOP/DACA: These demands are non-starters for Democrats & only show us that the President is not acting in good faith. The American people overwhelmingly agree that legalization and citizenship for Dreamers is the right thing to do


Chad Pergram
Top Dem on Hse Homeland Secuirty Cmte Thompson: This latest cynical effort to use vulnerable DACA youth as a bargaining chip to secure President Trump's fantasy of a closed immigration system and an unnecessary border wall is a new low for this Administration.

@ChadPergram
McCarthy on Fox: The only people that are trying to shut down government is Nancy Pelosi. I’ve watched on the other side of the chamber as she whipped mbrs..she’s pressuring them, trying to get into a shutdown to blame President Trump.


@ChadPergram
McCarthy on Fox on border security/DACA: If ee don’t deal w/security & chain migration, we will be be back..on a DACA issue in a few yrs.


The Republicans are holding back daca talks because they want 90% of their priorities in exchange for Dreamer legislation. Leadership is holding us hostage thanks to trump. If Dream Act were to be put on the floor I think it would pass. Just some crazy members holding stuff up

Michcio07 01-07-2018 05:32 PM

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If you want to have a laugh... http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018...-shutdown.html

eva02 01-07-2018 05:35 PM

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And those are just the problems for Republicans in the Senate.

“In the House, they cannot pass a bill without Democratic support,” Schumer recently suggested. “They have divisions on the Republican side between the defense hawks. The deficit hawks. The people who want a lot of (disaster) money for Texas and Florida. So that gives the House Democrats leverage.”


Democrats want the shutdown to happen in the house because of all the liberal and blue districts. It’s easier for them to win re-election / shutdown govt.

always_learner11 01-07-2018 05:50 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by eva02 (Post 666093)

@ChadPergram
McCarthy on Fox on border security/DACA: If ee don’t deal w/security & chain migration, we will be be back..on a DACA issue in a few yrs.

Here's a link to the McCarthy video.

2MoreYears 01-07-2018 05:57 PM

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Going nowhere? Sorry for not keeping up with all the news bs.

Swim19 01-07-2018 06:02 PM

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In response to a Rep. King tweet


@JakeSherman
Jake Sherman Retweeted Steve King
This is the squeeze you’re going to see in the coming weeks. Yes — many Republicans want a DACA deal. But there is a healthy pocket — i’d goes between 30-50 House Rs — who want nothing to do with a deal.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/stat...97048254189573

That's the problem. Those that don't want the deal are the ones actively pursing a wall + entire wish list of the alt-right. They would rather have no wall than DACA compromise.

libertarian1776 01-07-2018 06:17 PM

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not looking good, folks.


lol jk.


ONE MORE WEEK, DAWGS, its time for our stories to end! after 17 years, our chapter will close out.

imma be in the Bahamas this time next year.

year2010 01-07-2018 06:19 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 666106)
not looking good, folks.

I see it as even Steven king sees there’s a deal.....we don’t need all of them, just the ones who want to see a deal.

Rida980 01-07-2018 06:22 PM

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Next week is crucial. They cant just do nothing about it there will be some sort of relief atleast.....

Smooth 01-07-2018 06:26 PM

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Guys need to relax. This is a complex roller coaster, and all of you need to see how everything unfolds for . . . what the next two weeks? Brace yourself.

Smooth 01-07-2018 06:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 666106)
not looking good, folks.


lol jk.


ONE MORE WEEK, DAWGS, its time for our stories to end! after 17 years, our chapter will close out.

imma be in the Bahamas this time next year.

17?

27 for me.

libertarian1776 01-07-2018 06:36 PM

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i meant the initial introduction of the dream act in 2001.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smooth (Post 666112)
17?

27 for me.


always_learner11 01-07-2018 06:44 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by libertarian1776 (Post 666106)
not looking good, folks.


lol jk.


ONE MORE WEEK, DAWGS, its time for our stories to end! after 17 years, our chapter will close out.

imma be in the Bahamas this time next year.

If technically possible, another CR will pass going into February.

Michcio07 01-07-2018 06:45 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by always_learner11 (Post 666116)
If technically possible, another CR will pass going into February.

I think they can extend it until March as that where debt ceiling will be reached... for that they will need to pass something.

Pianoswithoutfaith 01-07-2018 06:46 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666102)
In response to a Rep. King tweet


@JakeSherman
Jake Sherman Retweeted Steve King
This is the squeeze you’re going to see in the coming weeks. Yes — many Republicans want a DACA deal. But there is a healthy pocket — i’d goes between 30-50 House Rs — who want nothing to do with a deal.

https://twitter.com/JakeSherman/stat...97048254189573

That's the problem. Those that don't want the deal are the ones actively pursing a wall + entire wish list of the alt-right. They would rather have no wall than DACA compromise.

Republicans simply don't want a comprise. What trump and these republicans are asking for are all the bargaining chips for a CIR.

frbc13 01-07-2018 06:48 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by always_learner11 (Post 666116)
If technically possible, another CR will pass going into February.

oh lawd not another extension please, tell me my fate right now.

2Face 01-07-2018 07:03 PM

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17 years for me as well. I need the GC ASAP so I can go back to my country and meet this girl that I went to elementary school with that I really like! Make Two-Face and his homies Legal Again!

Michcio07 01-07-2018 07:05 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 666121)
17 years for me as well. I need the GC ASAP so I can go back to my country and meet this girl that I went to elementary school with that I really like! Make Two-Face and his homies Legal Again!

jeeezzz maybe its time to move on?

Smooth 01-07-2018 07:14 PM

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Republicans are demanding too much. But, unless Democrats grow some fucking balls and make the GOP come to the center with leverage on spending, we will not get anything. If we get something, the compromise will have a shit ton of border security. Democrats should have threatened to shut the government down in Dec. The GOP draws hard lines like Miller's demands, but the Dems refrain from even threatening to shut the gov down. BOTH PARTIES are to blame if nothing gets done.

Rida980 01-07-2018 07:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by 2Face (Post 666121)
17 years for me as well. I need the GC ASAP so I can go back to my country and meet this girl that I went to elementary school with that I really like! Make Two-Face and his homies Legal Again!

We're in the same boat. 15 yrs for me and its not easy to move on

2Face 01-07-2018 07:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Michcio07 (Post 666122)
jeeezzz maybe its time to move on?

She just hit ya boy up yesterday brotherman. Now I am head over heels brosef.

2Face 01-07-2018 07:22 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rida980 (Post 666125)
We're in the same boat. 15 yrs for me and its not easy to move on

The night is darkest just before dawn brosef..and I promise you, the dawn is coming.

Swim19 01-07-2018 07:28 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Rida980 (Post 666125)
We're in the same boat. 15 yrs for me and its not easy to move on

28 years for me! We all should be pressuring Dems every day. Do your part!

MIdreamer 01-07-2018 07:49 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666129)
28 years for me! We all should be pressuring Dems every day. Do your part!

Sometime I just want to give up on the democrats. They are just weak most of the time, never see them fight for anything other than shit talking Trump.

libertarian1776 01-07-2018 07:53 PM

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“I have always believed that hope is that stubborn thing inside us that insists, despite all the evidence to the contrary, that something better awaits us so long as we have the courage to keep reaching, to keep working, to keep fighting."

“The cynics may be the loudest voices – but I promise you, they will accomplish the least”

all quotes from the man on your signature.


Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 666132)
Sometime I just want to give up on the democrats. They are just weak most of the time, never see them fight for anything other than shit talking Trump.


uion1715 01-07-2018 07:54 PM

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I'm going to guess that there will be some bill on the floor but another CR will be signed to punt this issue until February...

For what it's worth, no updates on any of the bills so far (Though Flake's Bill/S. 2199 now has a concise summary! https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...nate-bill/2199)

2Face 01-07-2018 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by MIdreamer (Post 666132)
Sometime I just want to give up on the democrats. They are just weak most of the time, never see them fight for anything other than shit talking Trump.

Per an activist I recently met MANY are adamant on using us for elections and re-elections! Democrats are not all saints.

MIdreamer 01-07-2018 07:56 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 666136)
I'm going to guess that there will be some bill on the floor but another CR will be signed to punt this issue until February...

For what it's worth, no updates on any of the bills so far (Though Flake's Bill/S. 2199 now has a concise summary! https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...nate-bill/2199)

I thought they can't do another CR.....WTF

ceaguila 01-07-2018 07:57 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 666136)
I'm going to guess that there will be some bill on the floor but another CR will be signed to punt this issue until February...

For what it's worth, no updates on any of the bills so far (Though Flake's Bill/S. 2199 now has a concise summary! https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-...nate-bill/2199)

Yup possibility another CR can happen and by then Feb. they have to raise the debt ceiling so Dems will have no more leverage.

Swim19 01-07-2018 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 666140)
Yup possibility another CR can happen and by then Feb. they have to raise the debt ceiling so Dems will have no more leverage.

I thought they couldn't do another CR because of defense spending has to be dealt with?

dreamer__13 01-07-2018 07:59 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ceaguila (Post 666140)
Yup possibility another CR can happen and by then Feb. they have to raise the debt ceiling so Dems will have no more leverage.

It’s looking like Dems just want to use us for the upcoming midterm elections. If it comes to that I really hope that Dreamers stand up and give them hell.

ceaguila 01-07-2018 08:55 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666141)
I thought they couldn't do another CR because of defense spending has to be dealt with?

Me too but I thought wrong. Several reporters said they can just keep kicking the can down the road.

Afridi786 01-07-2018 08:58 PM

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We're screwed ya'll. Seriously. At least Trump will get what he wants and look tough on immigration and dems can use our sob stories. That's what they'll discuss on Tuesday and then they'll laugh it up.

libertarian1776 01-07-2018 09:01 PM

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lmao ur screwed.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afridi786 (Post 666147)
We're screwed ya'll. Seriously. At least Trump will get what he wants and look tough on immigration and dems can use our sob stories. That's what they'll discuss on Tuesday and then they'll laugh it up.


year2010 01-07-2018 09:05 PM

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I don’t know about y’all, personally, as long as they do something for us, at this point, I don’t care what else they get. This ride has been crazy, some resolution is needed. Uncertainty is the worst. We just need to pressure them to come up with a deal. Give them the fucking wall already.

fl_dreamer 01-07-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by year2010 (Post 666150)
I don’t know about y’all, personally, as long as they do something for us, at this point, I don’t care what else they get. This ride has been crazy, some resolution is needed. Uncertainty is the worst. We just need to pressure them to come up with a deal. Give them the fucking wall already.

Tread lightly. Sensitive bitches on here will accuse you of selling of your parents for a GC.. lol

FLDreamerrr 01-07-2018 09:21 PM

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Flakes bill seem fair to both sides

jaylove16 01-07-2018 10:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Swim19 (Post 666141)
I thought they couldn't do another CR because of defense spending has to be dealt with?

They can’t do another CR if Dems don’t agree to it .

uion1715 01-07-2018 11:33 PM

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I said this in another post, but in some years, spending bill was signed all the way in May, so this isn't unprecedented. I really don't think Democrats will/should use the debt ceiling as leverage. That's a much riskier bet politically for Democrats than shutting down the government, IMO.

So, Jan. 19 or bust (I can see Feb. extension but ONLY if the basic outline of the deal is confirmed and the Congress needs a week/two just to finalize all the technical details... Congress has done this kind of agreement in the past).

dreamer__13 01-07-2018 11:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by uion1715 (Post 666192)
I said this in another post, but in some years, spending bill was signed all the way in May, so this isn't unprecedented. I really don't think Democrats will/should use the debt ceiling as leverage. That's a much riskier bet politically for Democrats than shutting down the government, IMO.

So, Jan. 19 or bust (I can see Feb. extension but ONLY if the basic outline of the deal is confirmed and the Congress needs a week/two just to finalize all the technical details... Congress has done this kind of agreement in the past).

Tbh if it goes past the 19th it’s probably because Dems have no intention of using their leverage. But it’s likely that a one or two week extension could also happen to finalize an agreement.


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