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Young Girl Tells Republican Congressman Her Father is Undocumented.[video] - Page 2

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08-19-2013, 02:47 PM
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I should stop "politicizing" a political issue? That statement defies logic.

Saying everyone would be encouraged to have "anchor babies" is like GOP representatives complaining DACA would encourage young immigrants to continue immigrating, to this day, because of the incentive we received. Or to not give DOMA couples immigration status because men would fake gay marriages.

I don't know about some of you, but a lot of dreamers and immigrants have moral standards to-the-point people who can adjust status by marrying a U.S. citizen will not do it. And I know you are young because like marriage, taking care of a baby is a GIANT commitment.

Listen, clauses are put in place to weed out people from DACA, like: Must be under the age of 30 or must be present June 15, 2012. Some limitations can certainly be set if parents who are victims of family separation would get deferred. Now , I know somebody will always exploit the system but that risk is worth it for families being torn apart today because of parent deportations.

And if Republicans died because Obama endorsed oxygen... Fine! That is what they would deserve for being dumb-assess against: science, facts , logic and the ethical correct things to do.
You made absolutely no sense. In your whole paragraph I don't even see a single valid argument.

Stop politicizing immigration and do your damn job of passing things that benefit the country.

Daca will not encourage "dreamers" to come here because 8 year olds don't make choices to over stay their visa or hop a boarder. Lets not forget the fact that it's not even a permanent solution.

And yes anchor babies is a very real thing. People do have them to be able to stay here and will continue doing so in the future if there is an incentive, especially people who live out of the country, come here to have their baby just as a backup plan to one day settle here.
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08-23-2013, 07:56 AM
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Happyman0607: Immigration reform is a political issue.
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And yes anchor babies is a very real thing. People do have them to be able to stay here and will continue doing so in the future if there is an incentive, especially people who live out of the country, come here to have their baby just as a backup plan to one day settle here.
About the anchor babies argument:
For the people who are here and undocumented already, the anchor babies solution is overblown.

1) You have to wait until the child is 21 years old which is a long time to justify as a backup plan.

2) During the time the child is 21, you can still be deported AND the US govt says you can leave your baby here while YOU go back to your country since the child is a U.S citizen.

Unless you pray for your child to have a serious disease such that you can prove you have to be in the U.S with that child in order to make sure he/she gets proper treatment (and cancel your deportation removal), anchor babies are two decade long process and will not protect you from deportation.

For the people who have babies and then return to their countries thereby creating a backup plan, I honestly think there isn't enough data to prove how common this is as an option. Most times, Republicans or detractors refer to the people who are here now in the U.S who have children here as those with the "anchor babies."

If you end up adjusting your status legally through marriage and/or your child, you still did it legally (and we know there are some of us who fake the marriage for a green card) so politicians can't rail against something that is allowable by law.
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Happyman0607: Immigration reform is a political issue.
This is true.



If it weren't for NAFTA, I doubt you would see the same level of immigration movement.
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