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Jesus you read too much conspiracy news and not very scientifically accurate. I'm surprised this guy isn't you.

It would be a conspiracy theory to assume it is a biological weapon, which it is not given how pathetically weak and how long it takes to incubate, and how masks can reduce it to a mild infection.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...-coronavirus1/

However, one of the top scientists from the Wuhan Institute of Virology specializes in bat viruses from SARS to this new one. Okay but lots of people do research with viruses. Just a coincidence they line up.

https://img-prod.tgcom24.mediaset.it...8628da0204.pdf
Chinese research has shown:
According to municipal reports and the testimonies of 31 residents
and 28 visitors, the bat was never a food source in the city, and no bat was traded in the
market. There was possible natural recombination or intermediate host of the coronavirus,
yet little proof has been reported.

280 meters from the market, there was the Wuhan Center for Disease Control & Prevention (WHCDC) where they study bat pathogens.

~12 kilometers from the seafood market and belonged to Wuhan Institute of Virology, Chinese Academy of Sciences where they also study bat pathogens.

So if residents of Wuhan dont eat bat then how did the virus that should be only in the lab, get out of the lab?

It's okay because the Chinese should be believed when it comes to lab safety.
https://www.the-scientist.com/news-a...ab-twice-50137

Its fact that Chinese scientists collect viral pathogens, and have a history of them escaping the lab. This global catastrophe is just a lab accident. Nothing malicious given 40 thousand of them died from it. If it were a bioweapon they wouldn't let 40k at minimum, die from from it.

Maybe a sick bat crossed paths with a civet, and the chinese ate the civet.

That link looks like someone took a word document, put in some text and exported to PDF. Please show me the original source, where this document has been peer reviewed and published.

The title says "The possible origins of 2019-nCoV coronavirus", the keyword is "possible", not clear.

The virus itself appears to have originated in bats but it could be carried by other animals. The theory is that it could've gone from bat-> pangolin -> human or from bat -> snake -> human. There are animals that can carry it as well, like cattle, camels, etc. This is all theory and at this time, there's only speculation. There is no "clear" evidence of anything.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...g/animals.html
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/a...voir-research/

You imply that the people who study viruses and new viruses in their lab, somehow missed the virus they're studying, and that missed virus happens to be a brand new strain of the coronavirus no one has seen before and it just so happens it can do human to human transmission. After that, they unknowingly carried it out.

If that were the case, then the people at the WHCDC would be the first people sick, including janitors, co-workers, family members, places that person would visit. However, it is workers at a wet market that were the first people showing up at the hospital, and the people they interact with.

Going along with your conspiracy theory, then it has to be that they released this virus on purpose. They did so in a wet market so they can blame the wet market as a scapegoat (otherwise, no one would be talking about a wet market). But if you were going to release a biological weapon, why would you release it on your own people, destroy your own economy, and not have a vaccine already made so your own people don't die.

If you look at viruses and their history, they are naturally occurring and happens mostly around places where there are lots of animals. H1N1 started in North America, MERS & SARS in Asia, Ebloa in Africa, etc. This coronavirus isn't the first to kill a lot of people and it won't be the last.

Listen to experts like Anthony Fauci, Kim Woo-joo, Michael Osterholm, etc. Do yourself a favor and wear a mask if you're going out. Change clothes when you get home and shower. Wash your hands with soap. Don't touch your face. In the US, we aren't half way through this pandemic yet. Stay safe people.

They are already published but it will be hard to peer review this as people don't want to touch the more controversial research articles even if china is obviously guilty.

You are horrifically misunderstanding the entire post so I have no choice but to restate all of it and hope it clicks.

I am saying that they are well aware of the nature of the virus, at least within the labs. But unfortunately they had a laboratory accident in which the virus infected them, or another specimen.

There have been claims that they have been selling research specimens at the local wet markets. I haven't found any hard proof of this so I'll have to leave this argument alone for now.

Also nobody from the WHCDC has come up and admitted they were infected, but the Chinese are well known for their coverups, my evidence for this is how they silenced multiple doctors who attempted to warn about this novel pathogen.

Again, its not a conspiracy, laboratory accidents happen even to the best of scientists. Viruses are very difficult to keep contained. The US alone had an outbreak of 1918 Flu at a military outpost. In 1977 in the russian far east 1918 flu leaked out of soviet and chinese labs.

Again, its most definitely not a biological weapon given how pathetically weak it is and how long the incubation period takes. Shouldn't china have a vaccine already deployed if it were a bioweapon? Shouldn't they be attempting to capitalize over this by invading or doing anything hostile?

Not a bioweapon, just an accidental lab leak. There is no proof that it came from the meat market, just that some cases happen to have originated from contact with people there.

"The symptom onset date of the first patient identified was Dec 1, 2019. None of his family members developed fever or any respiratory symptoms. No epidemiological link was found between the first patient and later cases."

5 days after illness onset, his wife, a 53-year-old woman who had no known history of exposure to the market, also presented with pneumonia and was hospitalised in the isolation ward.

27 (66%) of 41 patients had been exposed to Huanan seafood market.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/l...183-5/fulltext

This virus affects people differently, some don't show symptoms which is why it is dangerous. Yes, your family members will get infected because you were infected. You don't have to be at a seafood market to be infected, it is transmitted via people and contact. Hence, someone's wife can be infected without going to the food market. That's how 34% of patients out of 41 were infected. The majority of infections were in the market, which is useful information if you're trying to find the source of the first human infection of coronavirus. As far as I'm aware, the first 5 known infected people were from the wet market, not WHCDC personnel.

You have shown no solid proof that you are right but you claim you are because China lies. How does that make sense? Who are these infected WHCDC personnel? Did they get anti-body tests to show that they were infected with this new coronavirus? Did their family members get sick? What about their antibody tests?

Inb4 you say those antibody tests don't exist because of censorship and because of censorship they exist somewhere (but you don't know where but you have seen it) and you were somehow right. The lack of evidence due to censorship doesn't let you create evidence out of thin air to say you're right.

Also some food for thought: If China in January said this is a serious outbreak and asked the US, EU, other countries to shutdown and go on full quarantine (destroy their economies and their way of life), which countries do you think will say "ok" to that.

The lack of trust goes both ways... when China presumably lies and when China presumably tells the truth. When China shutdown a city of 60 million, that was the biggest signal to take immediate action but unfortunately the vast majority of the world sat on their hands. If you assume China is giving wrong data and the numbers are much worse, why the lack of action? The global pandemic was inevitable at that point.

It is depressing to see this play out. People fighting over toilet paper, the amount of misinformation that literally get people killed, the lack of coordination for resource allocation; It's the biggest shit show on a global scale you'll probably see in your life time.