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Dhs set to make it easier to deport undocumented immigrants - Page 3

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02-20-2017, 05:04 PM
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I understand your frustrations but don't listen to the news. They are over exaggerating.

It does not matter what the position is about deportations. It is simply not feasible to deport more than a couple hundred thousand people even with the current guidelines.

The ineptitude of government works against them.

My prediction is that they will at most be able to deport no more than 20% more folks than Obama.

Assuming Congress remains gridlocked and no significant funding gets increased.

On top of that, a lot of the funding would go to the genius idea of the wall.

In fact, the wall focus will deter funds for interior enforcement.

Will many innocent people get now caught as supposed to just convicted criminals, yes. But we must remain weary of the fear mongering from the media and the far left organization.
What are you talking about?

It's not feasible to do a lot of things, yet his administration is still clearly trying to do them. If it wasn't for the Judicial branch, we'd have that retarded immigration ban in place.

There's not going to be a wall. From a strategic standpoint, a wall works against specific requests from CBP agents, who are the ones who actually watch the damn border in the first place. They'll never agree on anything, at least not in the next 4 years.

And there's no fear mongering from the media, these are memos that have already been discussed by DHS, not some made up shit by any news reporting body.

You're making the mistake of underestimating how erratic this administration is willing to act without thinking two or three steps ahead.
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02-20-2017, 05:09 PM
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What are you talking about?

It's not feasible to do a lot of things, yet his administration is still clearly trying to do them. If it wasn't for the Judicial branch, we'd have that retarded immigration ban in place.

There's not going to be a wall. From a strategic standpoint, a wall works against specific requests from CBP agents, who are the ones who actually watch the damn border in the first place. They'll never agree on anything, at least not in the next 4 years.

And there's no fear mongering from the media, these are memos that have already been discussed by DHS, not some made up shit by any news reporting body.

You're making the mistake of underestimating how erratic this administration is willing to act without thinking two or three steps ahead.

I am not saying it is not real. I am simply saying it is not feasible with the current budget or the current human resources.

During their best week they managed to deport 600 people in one week.

At that rate, they can't deport more than Obama.

The longer they go the harder it gets to find the people they look for.

The judicial system will add to their grievances as you mentioned.

This is not a police state yet*
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I am not saying it is not real. I am simply saying it is not feasible with the current budget or the current human resources.

During their best week they managed to deport 600 people in one week.

At that rate, they can't deport more than Obama.

The longer they go the harder it gets to find the people they look for.

The judicial system will add to their grievances as you mentioned.

This is not a police state yet*
All Trump wants is theater, not actual deporting of dreamers, so don't panic.


I agree with you on a lot of points, but the number of people deported or removed is off. Most deportations do not make the news, like they just did. Obama in 2013 was averaging about 8.5K removals a week in 2013, and was down to about 4K a week last year. Removals include people turned away at the border and deported.

Trump can ramp up his numbers, but it would not be Dreamers, it would be people arriving now and claiming asylum ( who would be removed at the border ) . People who have felonies that are using asylum to stay. People with felonies that Obama chose not to deport. That is the low hanging fruit, not dreamers.

Some of his other stuff like adding 10,000 new agents in the next two years is impossible. It will take years to hire, vet and train that many people and even with a budget. Building the wall is stupid and the CBP does not want a wall because they cannot see the other side.
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I am not saying it is not real. I am simply saying it is not feasible with the current budget or the current human resources.

During their best week they managed to deport 600 people in one week.

At that rate, they can't deport more than Obama.

The longer they go the harder it gets to find the people they look for.

The judicial system will add to their grievances as you mentioned.

This is not a police state yet*
Yea, it will be very hard to get rid of all illegal immigrants. The only way that he could get everyone to leave is if they make E-verify mandatory in every state and harshly punish those that do hire illegal immigrants. Then I think that people would self-deport themselves.
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Yea, it will be very hard to get rid of all illegal immigrants. The only way that he could get everyone to leave is if they make E-verify mandatory in every state and harshly punish those that do hire illegal immigrants. Then I think that people would self-deport themselves.
The only reason they haven't done that is because they are aware of the devastating impact that would have in the economy.
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I am not saying it is not real. I am simply saying it is not feasible with the current budget or the current human resources.

During their best week they managed to deport 600 people in one week.

At that rate, they can't deport more than Obama.

The longer they go the harder it gets to find the people they look for.

The judicial system will add to their grievances as you mentioned.

This is not a police state yet*
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The only reason they haven't done that is because they are aware of the devastating impact that would have in the economy.
That is right. I am just saying that if they really wanted to get rid of everyone, they could do it.
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