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Sessions comments on Attorney Generals letter to rescind DACA - Page 4

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DACa ending doesn't mean mass deportation for us. We would go back to the shadows where we came from. The only difference would be life would be more risky for us. States with racist polices would be more than happy to turn our asses ( if arrested of course ) over to ice. Ice won't hestitate to target us more but massive dreamer deportation raids?


Sessions answers to Trump and so far right now his ( sessions ) willing to defend he isn't looking to positive. My worry with Trump is he says to people whatever would help boots he's ego. If he's with doing rallies ( which he still is doing ) with southern racist states he promises them hoe tough on immigration he will be. If he's talking to dreamers support groups he tells me how the dreamers are a tremendous group of people. He caters what he says to the specific groups he talks to
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I know it has not happened, but it is very likely.


The main problem we have is the attorney general. The only way to get around it is that he will have to be fired over not wanting to defend the lawsuit. It is likely that Trump will want to avoid that scandal and this is how these states are confident that they will succeed.

Sessions just went on national TV and bragged about this victory... like he is cheering for the opposite team.
Its difficult to believe that it would end like this. Its inhumane. Many of the children that were brought here, may not even speak their native languages.

Do these people not realize what they are doing? How can anyone justify deporting someone that was brought to this country at 5 years of age and who is now 25?
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Why do you say piano is hoping for worst case scenario for us?
Probably because he is the most cynical user here. It's okay to be pessimistic in these times but to do it all the time, might as well give up because you're wasting your time & life away.

Being cynical makes you less of a realist than an actual realist. Things are not always black and white. It only spreads unwanted negativity to this board and it's infectious when done nearly every time.
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Probably because he is the most cynical user here. It's okay to be pessimistic in these times but to do it all the time, might as well give up because you're wasting your time & life away.

Being cynical makes you less of a realist than an actual realist. Things are not always black and white. It only spreads unwanted negativity to this board and it's infectious when done nearly every time.


You just in may and admitted you were just following what 2Fave was saying.
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DACa ending doesn't mean mass deportation for us. We would go back to the shadows where we came from. The only difference would be life would be more risky for us. States with racist polices would be more than happy to turn our asses ( if arrested of course ) over to ice. Ice won't hestitate to target us more but massive dreamer deportation raids?


Sessions answers to Trump and so far right now his ( sessions ) willing to defend he isn't looking to positive. My worry with Trump is he says to people whatever would help boots he's ego. If he's with doing rallies ( which he still is doing ) with southern racist states he promises them hoe tough on immigration he will be. If he's talking to dreamers support groups he tells me how the dreamers are a tremendous group of people. He caters what he says to the specific groups he talks to
Shut the fuck up. DACA isn't ending. Stop rooting for DACA to fail. You don't seem disturbed or scared at all like the rest of us. Stop scaring people on here. Don't listen to this guy people. He said DACA would be ending on Trumps 1st day in office.
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DACa ending doesn't mean mass deportation for us. We would go back to the shadows where we came from. The only difference would be life would be more risky for us. States with racist polices would be more than happy to turn our asses ( if arrested of course ) over to ice. Ice won't hestitate to target us more but massive dreamer deportation raids?


Sessions answers to Trump and so far right now his ( sessions ) willing to defend he isn't looking to positive. My worry with Trump is he says to people whatever would help boots he's ego. If he's with doing rallies ( which he still is doing ) with southern racist states he promises them hoe tough on immigration he will be. If he's talking to dreamers support groups he tells me how the dreamers are a tremendous group of people. He caters what he says to the specific groups he talks to
Trump has said in the past to Dreamers to "rest easy" and he's alluded to a permanent solution that will "make everyone happy". I believe that he was genuine. He wants to help us but he's caught between a rock and a hard place.

If he does chose to help us, at this point what can he do?
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Trump has said in the past to Dreamers to "rest easy" and he's alluded to a permanent solution that will "make everyone happy". I believe that he was genuine. He wants to help us but he's caught between a rock and a hard place.

If he does chose to help us, at this point what can he do?
okay how would Trump help us? His attorney general comment regarding this isn't looking so positive. You think he would fire sessions over us and have another scandal at his hands? If DACa is constitutional then why are so many people worried here, we should just sit back and relax and let lady justice do the rest.
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Shut the fuck up. DACA isn't ending. Stop rooting for DACA to fail. You don't seem disturbed or scared at all like the rest of us. Stop scaring people on here. Don't listen to this guy people. He said DACA would be ending on Trumps 1st day in office.


Here comes mr " I ain't even worried guys trump is mah boy and he has our back I am so not worried that I need to come to this site to show how not worried I am. But if I become a USC I am voting republics straight up ! Like this post if you approve of daddy trump "
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okay how would Trump help us? His attorney general comment regarding this isn't looking so positive. You think he would fire sessions over us and have another scandal at his hands? If DACa is constitutional then why are so many people worried here, we should just sit back and relax and let lady justice do the rest.
DACA is constitutional on the eyes of liberal judges, not conservative ones.

It is all political. In a fundamental level, it could go either way, the constitution does not answer every question, it is all up to interpretation. The constitution is an outdated piece of paper. Yes, the constitution is a really good document, robust, and has done a really good job through times but when it comes to issues such as these, it really does not suffice.


I really believe there is justification to provide lawful presence under the executive powers. So the current Obama view I believe is valid because it does not provide status. The problem is the AG.


I do not think there has been a time where the AG goes against the president's opinion. Clearly here the AG is complicit in all of this and he rejoices at the fact that in his view, DACA is against the law.

It is however important to note that DACA recipients will not be deported, that would go against the government's good faith.

However, the lawsuit could get complicated, because basically they would be saying, enforce immigration law, yet do not really enforce the law.

Get rid of work permits but do not deport. This is where the lawsuit could probably fail... and how it could come on our side.


You cannot demand the law to be executed faithfully for the "public good" (revoke work permits) yet not execute the immigration law which says to deport anyone in the U.S Illegally. Their argument could fall here, since their main argument is the unconstitutionally of the branch to determine who gets deported and who does not. I am sure their rock filled skulls do not fully comprehend this. They are simply going about the hope that Trump will be forced to terminate it on his own to avoid a spectacle.
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