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#11
09-27-2009, 08:53 PM
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Signing up for Selective Service was one of the reasons I was left to check the US Citizen box on my college application. My guidance counselor had signed me up for a small state-funded merit scholarship and checked the citizen box without my consent, so when it came time to accept it, I was purposely trying to turn it down by ignoring it, until the letters from the financial aid office informed me that my scholarship was being withdrawn because I wasn't registered for Selective Service.

So I was in a catch 22. If I didn't sign up for Selective Service, it would show poor moral character, but at the same time, I thought it would be ridiculous for me to call the state and say I was an illegal immigrant. I feared I would be more likely to raise eyebrows if the scholarship application listed me as a citizen while I would apply to school as a non-citizen, so I checked the citizen box to a) be consistent and b) not have to fill in the extra lines asking for an Alien# or visa in the other categories, which I thought of as lying twice. Long story short, I registered for SS and the scholarship money was returned to me at the end of my first semester. That's the only benefit I ever got from claiming US citizenship, at a private college, mind you, and I'd return the money in taxes if and when I get the chance. This thing has been haunting me, especially as I'm concerned it may jeopardize my adjustment of status (1-2 year wait left for a visa since my mom filed for me in 2006).
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09-27-2009, 11:21 PM
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Notice the word "and"? It has a very significant role in that sentence. You can register at any U.S. Post Office AND do not need a SSN. Take a step outside your door and register at your local post office. Trust me. You won't need a SSN. Problem solved.

And "FYI", I don't care if you were registering online. You didn't bother to even mention that in your first post, and the answer to your question was still available in DeseoUnPoco's post. Unless you insist on registering online... then don't count on anything.
jeez withchemicals, chill, the guy seems new to this, he would not have known.

albeit, very funny response, points on the creativity factor, lmao.

but yeah, dude, w0rd, you could have done a quick search on the forums to find the answer to your question, I was about to post regarding the not being able to apply online but thought it was already quite obvious, clearly I under-estimated the situation, I need to recall that not everyone that comes into the boards has been here for a while to know how to use the search function or know much of the basics about this immigration system and what steps we are supposed to take to prepare (navigation included).
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09-27-2009, 11:34 PM
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Signing up for Selective Service was one of the reasons I was left to check the US Citizen box on my college application. My guidance counselor had signed me up for a small state-funded merit scholarship and checked the citizen box without my consent, so when it came time to accept it, I was purposely trying to turn it down by ignoring it, until the letters from the financial aid office informed me that my scholarship was being withdrawn because I wasn't registered for Selective Service.

So I was in a catch 22. If I didn't sign up for Selective Service, it would show poor moral character, but at the same time, I thought it would be ridiculous for me to call the state and say I was an illegal immigrant. I feared I would be more likely to raise eyebrows if the scholarship application listed me as a citizen while I would apply to school as a non-citizen, so I checked the citizen box to a) be consistent and b) not have to fill in the extra lines asking for an Alien# or visa in the other categories, which I thought of as lying twice. Long story short, I registered for SS and the scholarship money was returned to me at the end of my first semester. That's the only benefit I ever got from claiming US citizenship, at a private college, mind you, and I'd return the money in taxes if and when I get the chance. This thing has been haunting me, especially as I'm concerned it may jeopardize my adjustment of status (1-2 year wait left for a visa since my mom filed for me in 2006).
oh man sorry to hear that... I am actually worrying about something similar to this. Right now I cannot find any information about the requirements for the scholarships I was awarded, and trust me, I have tried to look it up in the past, its almost a semester ritual for me. And recently, well I found out in one page that I had never seen before a requirement that states that I have to be a PR for the scholarship I have, which is now causing me to stress out about what the counselor did after I told her of my status... (however, this is a private school and the scholarship is by a private individual). I am actually worried about what I may find if I try to look up my status in the system, already this school stood out in the list of schools that I applied because it accepted me as a domestic not international, therefore I do not have an international advisor, and when I went to talk to an international advisor she had no idea what-so-ever on how to deal with my situation and this was the director in charge of international advising essentially.

How to fix this little problem? I am sure you are asking yourself that question, I am right now hoping I do not have that question to ask.

btw, I found out about the scholarship requirement a couple of weeks ago in between of loan searching and trying to see what lawyer to contact...

good luck with your application, hopefully they are not going to be looking that closely into your background.
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10-02-2009, 11:35 AM
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This passage from Ismail vs. Gonzales:

http://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions...0376.0.wpd.pdf

"Ismail contends the Government failed to show attending a private university was a “purpose or benefit”. The Government responds: Ismail falsely represented his status in order to gain admission to Drexel’s parttime evening-division program; and, accordingly, he avoided the visa and full-time study requirements of INA § 101(a)(15)(F)(i), 8 U.S.C. § 1101(a)(15)(F)(i)."


I hope it's different in my case having been a fulltime student and applied while I was still under 18. I didn't know better. Some people at least had no problem getting green cards despite a realtor checking the citizen box in the house closing papers if they happened to be out of status at the time.
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10-05-2009, 12:08 AM
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Notice the word "and"? It has a very significant role in that sentence. You can register at any U.S. Post Office AND do not need a SSN. Take a step outside your door and register at your local post office. Trust me. You won't need a SSN. Problem solved.

And "FYI", I don't care if you were registering online. You didn't bother to even mention that in your first post, and the answer to your question was still available in DeseoUnPoco's post. Unless you insist on registering online... then don't count on anything.
Wow, possibly the funniest angry response I've seen on the forum. A+++
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