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Obama is to Blame for the Failure of Immigration Reform - Page 2

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I would just like to add that about a year ago Obamas aunt, a Kenyan citizen who was in the in the country illegally (living in public housing in Boston) was given a green card (through asylum) big thanks to his big uncle in the white house.
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I would just like to add that about a year ago Obamas aunt, a Kenyan citizen who was in the in the country illegally (living in public housing in Boston) was given a green card (through asylum) big thanks to his big uncle in the white house.

Stop spreading the HATE and blaming people... The time we are wasting seeing who is at fault, we can be talking about positive steps towards making real progress. I know we are all angry but believe me the Blame game is not going to help it might actually do the opposite. There is always a way towards what we want, we just need to find it.. Believe me it is there. LET US BE ENCOURAGING TOWARDS ALL.
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Obama's Aunt Granted Asylum, Stopping Her Deportation to Kenya
CLEVELAND -- A U.S. immigration court granted asylum to President Barack Obama's African aunt, allowing her to stay in the country, her attorneys said Monday.
The decision was mailed Friday and comes three months after Kenya native Zeituni Onyango, the half-sister of Obama's late father, testified at a closed hearing in Boston, where she arrived in a wheelchair and two doctors testified in support of her case.
The basis for her asylum request hadn't been made public. People who seek asylum must show that they face persecution in their homeland on the basis of religion, race, nationality, political opinion or membership in a social group.
Her lawyer, Margaret Wong, said last year that Onyango first applied for asylum "due to violence in Kenya." The East African nation is fractured by cycles of electoral violence every five years.
In a November interview with The Associated Press, Onyango said she was disabled and was learning to walk again after being paralyzed from Guillain-Barre syndrome, an autoimmune disorder.


Onyango moved to the United States in 2000. Her first asylum request was rejected, and she was ordered deported in 2004. But she didn't leave the country and continued to live in public housing in Boston.
Onyango's status as an illegal immigrant was revealed just days before Obama was elected in November 2008. Obama said he did not know his aunt was living here illegally and believes laws covering the situation should be followed.
A judge later agreed to suspend her deportation order and reopen her asylum case.
Wong has said that Obama wasn't involved in the Boston hearing. The White House also said it was not helping Onyango with legal fees.
In his memoir, "Dreams from My Father: A Story of Race and Inheritance," Obama affectionately referred to Onyango as "Auntie Zeituni" and described meeting her during his 1988 trip to Kenya.
Onyango helped care for the president's half brothers and sister while living with Barack Obama Sr. in Kenya.
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I agree with this article. If Obama had half the "fire" he had with health care, he could've been a huge help to move some sort of reform along, whether it was DREAM or CIR. In the end, the only time I've heard him talk about it has been for many 2 minutes ("it's a priority... this year... next year... we will do it.. blah blah blah") and AFTER the DREAM act vote failed. Mmm, a little too late?

He was passionate about health care reform, and it passed. He isn't passionate about any immigration reform so it won't pass any time soon. Simple.
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I agree with this article. If Obama had half the "fire" he had with health care, he could've been a huge help to move some sort of reform along, whether it was DREAM or CIR. In the end, the only time I've heard him talk about it has been for many 2 minutes ("it's a priority... this year... next year... we will do it.. blah blah blah") and AFTER the DREAM act vote failed. Mmm, a little too late?

He was passionate about health care reform, and it passed. He isn't passionate about any immigration reform so it won't pass any time soon. Simple.
Compared to George W. Bush, Obama has not put any effort into immigration reform.
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We should each write and send obama a letter saying:
"Back in the day, you were separated by your color. Now, we are separated by our legal status. Ain't it funny how history repeats itself? Help us DREAMers and we'll help you in 2012. Which, surely, will be more than what you expect."
That's a good letter, Xzubo. A stronger and more aggressive backbone for Obama will work to his benefit. He will just have to be careful while he does it. I also hope that in 2011, Obama can become more assertive with his decisions (on anything) and more confident on what he does.

Edit: Health care reform was quite a fight back in 2009 and in the first quarter of 2010. The backlash and racism from the other side was quite sickening. Imagine being in Obama's shoes and experiencing all of that anger and hatred from the other side. It's scary. On a honest note, I would say that the DREAM Act is the equivalent of Health Care Reform. Obama will have to engage in long, political warfare again to get something like this passed. And even if it does pass, think about the anger, racism and resentment that will spring out across the country. It's scary to think about. I think there is a fear of a riot or some violent protest occurring in Washington, where people could get arrested or injured over a political outcome.
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perhaps the failure may be due to the illegality and illegitimacy of the position?
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perhaps the failure may be due to the illegality and illegitimacy of the position?
What illegitimacy? The fact that long-term U.S. residents without status want to have the ability to earn status? Key word being *earn* not given; there's nothing illegitimate or unreasonable about it. Theres a bigger drain on this country right now and it is the war in Afghanistan and the contined military presence in Iraq - that is indeed illegal and illegitimate.
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Godamn you insolent kids. This is what makes me angry about this forum. In that case, we ALL should blame the failure on ourselves, because WE DIDN'T DO ENOUGH. Hell, We could have held marches, like back in '07, but we didn't. The president is a busy man, and he has endorsed the Dream Act at various points. There was a speech somewhere where he talked only about immigration where he also mentioned the Dream Act.

The Dream act is a small piece of legislation, a very necessary, but in effect small. Healthcare affected EVERYONE in the country. And by the way, he got the votes for everything else (Wall Street, DADT, etc..). The failure of the Dream Act is and will always be the right wing GOP conservatives, want it or not. They do what the Democrats should do, they stick together and stay united.

He doesn't cave in too easily, he just has a plan. Why are republicans so silent about the tax cut issue now? In my opinion, they are like this: "Wtf did we just do?," They basically gave Obama a path to prove how bad the Tax cuts are, and they will pay for that in 2012. In my opinion, he will bring up immigration reform on 2012, hence elections. He is going to make them either resolve immigration, or take away the latino vote. Either way, Obama has more of a chance to win.
This absolutely, some of you have no idea how much Obama has tried to help us. That healthcare reform, economy, and DADT was ahead of us doesnt mean that we arent important. Some of you are really fucking annoying.
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This absolutely, some of you have no idea how much Obama has tried to help us. That healthcare reform, economy, and DADT was ahead of us doesnt mean that we arent important. Some of you are really fucking annoying.
Lol i laugh at this, how has Obama tried to help us aside from empty rhetoric? Please enlighten me. Revolutionary Mind? I doubt that. What else is ahead of us? Ahh man you made my day, too bad bad you tried to mimic Immortal Technique, shame.

Let's see, Health care reform, specifically bans "illegal immigrants" from obtaining health care, even though we pay our taxes like any abiding citizen (well at least i do). I don't care anyways since i pay for my own.

Economy? What is their to know? Continued spending in wars without proper funding, let me guess it was the "illegals" lol...

DADT, well i don't have anything against it, people should be equally protected, specially when they are putting their lives on the line. Plus last i checked a bullet from a homosexual is just as effective as a bullet from a heterosexual.

Keep on drinking the cool aid man.
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Lol i laugh at this, how has Obama tried to help us aside from empty rhetoric? Please enlighten me. Revolutionary Mind? I doubt that. What else is ahead of us? Ahh man you made my day, too bad bad you tried to mimic Immortal Technique, shame.

Let's see, Health care reform, specifically bans "illegal immigrants" from obtaining health care, even though we pay our taxes like any abiding citizen (well at least i do). I don't care anyways since i pay for my own.

Economy? What is their to know? Continued spending in wars without proper funding, let me guess it was the "illegals" lol...

DADT, well i don't have anything against it, people should be equally protected, specially when they are putting their lives on the line. Plus last i checked a bullet from a homosexual is just as effective as a bullet from a heterosexual.

Keep on drinking the cool aid man.
No you stop being a fucking retard

Every fucking day all i hear on this forum is people bitching and complaining while all they ever do is sit and fax and think that Senators are going to change their mind when in reality they couldnt give a fuck less about your support and your potential support, cuz let's not kid ourselves, POTENTIAL support isn't 100 percent.

And you couldn't sound more ignorant with your statements. Check the facts, the legal-American population isn't crying out "Let's pass the DREAM Act." In all honesty they couldn't give a fuck less besides Senator Durbin introducing it every couple years. At our current situation, immigration reform isn't anyone's cup of tea, with a 10% unemployment rate, do you think people really want more people coming in to "steal jobs" even though it may not be true? Like I said before, President Obama doesnt have to do jack shit or even mention us, but he does. That we didn't organize well is OUR fault, with 800-3 million potential people being affected by this bill, not planning is simply unacceptable. We can't just keep wishing for senators to have a change of heart, if you're sitting there crying on the DREAM's fail and pointing fingers then you're not fighting.

What we really need to do is organize, most Democrats support us but they also have a fucking family to feed.
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