Path To Citizenship for Undocumented in Obama's Agenda - Page 6

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Yeah, I don't know how you expected to get flamed when you're representing dreamers as the victims here. I might catch heat for this, but I think the DA movement is quite different from civil rights/equal rights movements.

The argument for this isn't even mine, it's from having read dozens if not hundreds of comments on immigration articles. We did not have a choice to not come to the US when our parents made that decision. But we do, once we hit adulthood, have the choice to leave. A black person in the 60s could not stop being black, and a woman could not stop being a woman. But most of us (except in the cases of dreamers from North Korea, or other terrible nations) have the choice that if we don't like it here, we can leave. No we may not have friends or family in our home countries, or even speak the language. But the choice is there. African Americans and women never had that choice.

Anyway, yeah. Just playing devil's advocate. Our "plight" is quite different. We're still oppressed. Still marginalized, but I don't think we're dealing with the same animal here.

Very true, yet returning to your home country at adulthood is like saying African Americans should go back to Africa... I've been in this country for 12 years prior to my 18th birthday. I have no family or support system in my native country.. and Thebojly reason I say natives cause I was born there.. nevergone back nor remember anything about it.. this is my country.. I was educated here elementary, middle, high school, college and post graduate... I've worked since the age of 17.. public private labor management... put myself through school... so to say this is not my country is ludacris..

I agree with you. I've Invested all my life in this country because I grew up loving it. As sad as it sounds I dont feel mexican. I didnt grow up with mexican politics, issues, culture and pop culture. I dont want to blame it on anyone but it is my parents responsibility that I grew up American because I was tought into believing I was American. I pledged the alligiance. I saw 9/11 happen from my schools library window. I just cant bare with the reality that " i have to go back or have the choice to go back" because I feel like I dont belong there. My family over there already looks at me different. I cant even hold an intellectual conversation in spanish because I lack the vocabulary. I love speaking two languages. I admire the culture and love/ respect the people. But because I grew up with thinking I was American It doesnt make sense to me to go back. I can only dream hope and work hard and hope that this country one day accepts me as an American in papers.

Wait you're aware Africans Americans have been here at least more than 12 years right. You're not seriously and honestly comparing our status with them are you? Quiet honestly if seems alot of you are self entitled kids who feel just because your parents brought you here without your consent, you should be rewarded or something. When you hit 18, you had the option to leave the country. No one was forcing you to stay. So how can It be your parents fault. Is like blaming your weed dealer for your addition. " yeah I'm sorry but its not my fault he got me into weed punish him and put me on a program to get rid of this addictions since he's the one that got me addicted in the first place and no I had no free will to stop my addiction sorry"

I truly hope your young, because if your not your views are completely distorted.. first of the height of time is irrelevant ( someone that came when they were 3 and now are 70 fit into you criteria?)... my life is here.. my home career friends memories accomplishments all of my firsts... are you seriously saying that a child that came here when they're 5 or 6 should just pick up and leave once they're 18? Just a question and say nothing if I'm right are you mitt Romney?

I truly hope your young, because if your not your views are completely distorted.. first of the length of time is irrelevant ( someone that came when they were 3 and now are 70 fit into you criteria?)... my life is here.. my home career friends memories accomplishments all of my firsts... are you seriously saying that a child that came here when they're 5 or 6 should just pick up and leave once they're 18? Just a question and say nothing if I'm right are you mitt Romney?

Um, no it's not. It really truly isn't. African Americans are descendants of slaves who were forcefully brought here, families broken and destroyed, were enslaved for four centuries and only recently had the Civil Rights Movement that finally ended Jim Crow.

African Americans have had their ancestors lynched, raped, declared 3/5ths of a person, dealt with racism over centuries.

SERIOUSLY. You can NEVER make this argument and win. You cannot. Even though we live in the shadows, we are NOT going to get lynched due to our status. The worst case is that we get caught by ICE and get deported.

Immigrants who come here BECAUSE of the opportunities presented. You still have the ability to leave this country, even though it would be hard, even though you would be separated from your family.

You truly don't know black history if you don't know that if slaves EVER ran away from their plantations, they would have been killed and their families would have been attacked/beaten as punishment.

I'm completely blown away by this. THIS is not going to help our case because you WILL offend African Americans so don't even bother with this.

Ahhh, thank you. Thought I was going absolutely nuts.

How did this turn into a talk of slavery? I've never compared our struggle to the times of slavery... I did however compare it to separate but equal, whites only, brown vs. The board of education, etc. So please don't put words in my mouth...

Oh, I will catch flames because I simply can't stand by with this daft comparison. Sorry. I may be a Dreamer, I may have been fighting for this for the last 10 years, but this is absolutely RIDICULOUS.

You can't compare this to African Americans and the Civil Rights Movement. Period.

It's like people doing that stupid planking but not realizing that the original plankers were African slaves brought on ships. Slaves were stacked one on top of the other + and were forced to relieve themselves on each other. People need to google it and let me know what they find.

They were legally DECLARED 3/5ths of a man. Psssh. Ya'll are crazy.