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#41
10-13-2012, 12:11 PM
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Dude, can you STOP with the negativity already?! Since you are so confident that Romney will win and cancel DACA and the pending applications, why did you apply? Why are you constantly checking for information on processing times then? Why not just return to the 'shadows' since you are so pessimistic? Dial it back on the negativity, it's counterproductive.
As someone who thinks Romney will win I applied because having my own social security number and an eventual expired driver's license would make a huge fucking difference in my life. Neither optimism, nor pessimism, nor realism will affect the outcome of a decision that's not for your or me to make.

"Why not just return to the 'shadows' since you are so pessimistic?"

What kind of shitty logic is this? HAHA
Why don't you fix the toilet if you are eating a banana? :S
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10-13-2012, 12:36 PM
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As someone who thinks Romney will win I applied because having my own social security number and an eventual expired driver's license would make a huge fucking difference in my life. Neither optimism, nor pessimism, nor realism will affect the outcome of a decision that's not for your or me to make.

"Why not just return to the 'shadows' since you are so pessimistic?"

What kind of shitty logic is this? HAHA
Why don't you fix the toilet if you are eating a banana? :S
LMAO...I'm sorry I had to have a good laugh after reading your post which makes very little sense. Since you are so convinced that Romney will win, do you think that a social.security number that will not be valid for employment without DHS authorization and an EXPIRED driver's license will be of any use to you under Romney? You are sadly mistaken.

As for my 'shitty logic' as you put it, it makes NO sense to be so pessimistic about a program that you believe will be canceled, and still sign up for it. It's like signing up for an elective class in college that you've already convinced yourself that you'd drop halfway through the semester (even before you signed up for it), not because you've ever taken that course before, but because of your own paranoia. Wouldn't it make more sense to not sign up for the course at all and seek another alternative since you're so convinced that you wouldn't be able to handle it, and most importantly since it's BY CHOICE not a core course needed for your major?

Looks to me like you didn't really think this one through properly, if you did, then your logic is terribly flawed on so many levels.
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10-13-2012, 02:13 PM
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There's no way he will touch us, if he does he will be the worst president on history, how disrespectful and greedy would that be to the american people and us? i dough he will do anything about it.

and btw DACA is USCIS idea, obama just agreed on it
On the contrary,it is well within Romney's power to stop this.If any authority under the President can initiate the program another authority under a different incoming President can certainly halt it.The program only really affects Dreamers a and their family members hopes somewhat and perhaps some USCIS jobs.What I wonder is why the President hasn't made the economic argument concerning the program and the 1,400 jobs it created for the Federal USCIS service and if Romney gets in it would basically be a job killer.Let's face it,this election is going to be more about the economy than DACA so the President has to work everything within that particular context.

On another note,I don't think DACA was originally a USCIS idea at all and credit should be given where it is due to whomever pushed for this.I think the President is getting all the kudos and negatives for it though,but I honestly don't believe he was the source idea for DACA either.
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10-13-2012, 03:38 PM
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On the contrary,it is well within Romney's power to stop this.If any authority under the President can initiate the program another authority under a different incoming President can certainly halt it.The program only really affects Dreamers a and their family members hopes somewhat and perhaps some USCIS jobs.What I wonder is why the President hasn't made the economic argument concerning the program and the 1,400 jobs it created for the Federal USCIS service and if Romney gets in it would basically be a job killer.Let's face it,this election is going to be more about the economy than DACA so the President has to work everything within that particular context.

On another note,I don't think DACA was originally a USCIS idea at all and credit should be given where it is due to whomever pushed for this.I think the President is getting all the kudos and negatives for it though,but I honestly don't believe he was the source idea for DACA either.
It was a reaction to Marco Rubios 'plan.'
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10-13-2012, 06:05 PM
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LMAO...I'm sorry I had to have a good laugh after reading your post which makes very little sense. Since you are so convinced that Romney will win, do you think that a social.security number that will not be valid for employment without DHS authorization and an EXPIRED driver's license will be of any use to you under Romney? You are sadly mistaken.

As for my 'shitty logic' as you put it, it makes NO sense to be so pessimistic about a program that you believe will be canceled, and still sign up for it. It's like signing up for an elective class in college that you've already convinced yourself that you'd drop halfway through the semester (even before you signed up for it), not because you've ever taken that course before, but because of your own paranoia. Wouldn't it make more sense to not sign up for the course at all and seek another alternative since you're so convinced that you wouldn't be able to handle it, and most importantly since it's BY CHOICE not a core course needed for your major?

Looks to me like you didn't really think this one through properly, if you did, then your logic is terribly flawed on so many levels.
Meh, it seems like you lead the conventional lifestyle of a hopeless illegal immigrant who can't think past the limitations of their unfortunate lifestyle. I don't think you understand the positive implications of having a valid social security number and an expired driver's license. Also, your analogy is fucking dreadful.
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10-13-2012, 07:54 PM
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Meh, it seems like you lead the conventional lifestyle of a hopeless illegal immigrant who can't think past the limitations of their unfortunate lifestyle. I don't think you understand the positive implications of having a valid social security number and an expired driver's license. Also, your analogy is fucking dreadful.
Once again you've FAILED miserably to explain your logic. Instead of coherently stating your views, you resorted to baseless ad hominem arguments. Can you also learn to state your points without being vulgar? It does work you know...Anyway, attempting to have a civil discussion with you is pointless as you lack the decorum to do so.
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10-13-2012, 08:16 PM
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What happens after two years for those already approved, given that Romney becomes President?

I mean, those approved paid fees which I believe included the opportunity to renew after two years. Could Romney take this "opportunity" away?
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10-13-2012, 09:11 PM
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Once again you've FAILED miserably to explain your logic. Instead of coherently stating your views, you resorted to baseless ad hominem arguments. Can you also learn to state your points without being vulgar? It does work you know...Anyway, attempting to have a civil discussion with you is pointless as you lack the decorum to do so.
Aww, baby can spot logical fallacies (yes, more A.H!). Draw yourself up a logic diagram and you'll find out how your assessment truly is horridly counterproductive. Contact any competent immigration attorney or any representative, democratic or republican, and ask them whether you should apply or not for deportation relief under this presidential directive while taking into account the potential of Romney rescinding it and I can guarantee you that the great majority of them will tell you to go ahead and apply anyway--it's simple decision theory. Those who advise you not to do so are either myopic imbeciles or fervently condemn President Obama's decision. Fuck decorum and netiquette.
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What happens after two years for those already approved, given that Romney becomes President?

I mean, those approved paid fees which I believe included the opportunity to renew after two years. Could Romney take this "opportunity" away?

There are 2 possibilities that I see.

1. If Obama wins - He promises to keep pushing the DREAM Act and pass it. He keeps DACA in place so those nearing their expiration can re-apply for an extension.

2. If Romney wins - He CLAIMS (big IF here) that he will fix the broken immigration system before the expiration of the current work permit. Although he's very vague about exactly what he will do other than path to citizenship through military service. I feel that DACA will be shut down under his administration although he will not revoke permits "that have been paid for."
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10-13-2012, 09:47 PM
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Out of the 6400 pending applications, 6000 are located in Vermont.

I disagree with people that it'll take a month to approve the rest. California is approving people at a faster clip. People who did their bio appointments the same day as me and sent their apps in September have been approved.

I'm not stressed, but I don't know why one center is going faster than the other. What's the point of moving from one service center to the next when apps are going to languish?
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