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Senators agree on path to legal status for illegal immigrants - Page 3

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03-11-2013, 05:32 PM
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At least 10 years?...Holy cow...
This is specifically talking about the general legalization program.I think Senator Durbin will more than likely push for a very fair variation of Dream act in any consensus.The last CIR bill allowed Dreamers access to Permanent residency at the 3 year mark as long as you met the 2 year requirement for military service or towards education.
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This is specifically talking about the general legalization program.I think Senator Durbin will more than likely push for a very fair variation of Dream act in any consensus.The last CIR bill allowed Dreamers access to Permanent residency at the 3 year mark as long as you met the 2 year requirement for military service or towards education.
Yea, I am expecting that...I am just concerned for everyone in general...thats alot of years...
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That 10 year wait is a little too much. I don't care about expedited status for us dreamers, I care more about my parents legalizing their situation. As of paying taxes, there should be a distinction between people that have been paying them regardless of not been able to receive benefits from them, and people that choose not to do so; it says a lot about your morals. Make different paths, sorry but people that choose not to pay taxes are dishonest.

Imagine if every undocumented immigrant was paying taxes, don't you think there would be even more support for IR? People choosing not to pay taxes is one of the issues that angers the most the GOP and almost every US citizen. Make the distinction.
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If you ever bother to read reports, you would see that people not authorized to be here are filing for taxes despite how the other sides says they don (guys there is a different between paying for taxes and FILING for taxes) If you don't meet the bracket, you are EXEMPT but it does not mean you don't have to file your taxes which pretty much is reporting your income so it can be taxed according.

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As of paying taxes, there should be a distinction between people that have been paying them regardless of not been able to receive benefits from them, and people that choose not to do so; it says a lot about your morals.
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imagine if they said instead

"There should be a distinction between people who are illegally and not doing anything about it than people who are trying to fix their status the right moral ethically and honest way, those people should be prioritize first"


are we really going to start diving each other now from who and who does not get "benefited" from the side benefits of a CIR?



Again, even if you don't file for taxes, it doesn't mean you are not paying them, look up what sales and property taxes are.
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you guys should also read this article


http://www.factcheck.org/2009/04/cos...al-immigrants/
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[quote=Pianoswithoutfaith;443272]If you ever bother to read reports, you would see that people not authorized to be here are filing for taxes despite how the other sides says they don (guys there is a different between paying for taxes and FILING for taxes) If you don't meet the bracket, you are EXEMPT but it does not mean you don't have to file your taxes which pretty much is reporting your income so it can be taxed according.

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As of paying taxes, there should be a distinction between people that have been paying them regardless of not been able to receive benefits from them, and people that choose not to do so; it says a lot about your morals.
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imagine if they said instead

"There should be a distinction between people who are illegally and not doing anything about it than people who are trying to fix their status the right moral ethically and honest way, those people should be prioritize first"


are we really going to start diving each other now from who and who does not get "benefited" from the side benefits of a CIR?



Again, even if you don't file for taxes, it doesn't mean you are not paying them, look up what sales and property taxes are.
I do know what those are and what they fund, my point was towards the morals on wanting to do the right thing and wanting to contribute. I know many people that sure aren't here for that.
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So if your point is the morals of wanting to the right thing why didn't you go back home and applied legally through there instead of overstaying your welcome after your visa expired?


whats this? it just wasn't possible? You couldn't? it would be unethical for you to leave your family behind here and doing it the right legal way?
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So if your point is the morals of wanting to the right thing why didn't you go back home and applying legally through there instead of overstaying your welcome after your visa expired?


whats this? it just wasn't possible? You couldn't? it would be unethical for you to leave your family behind here and doing it the right legal way?
You're confused, the fact that you violated the law once doesn't mean that you can keep on violating it over and over based on the first one you did; or are you going to tell me people doesn't know they have the responsibility to file their taxes?
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then its no longer an ethical, moral thing then, if its a law thing, actually its a law thing, so you are obligated to do so. You are also obligated to apply legally through a lawful path instead of overstaying your welcome.

people are also responsible for fixing their status the legal CORRECT way instead of waiting for the USA government to do so.
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then its no longer an ethical, moral thing then, if its a law thing, actually its a law thing, so you are obligated to do so. You are also obligated to apply legally through a lawful path instead of overstaying your welcome.

people are also responsible for fixing their status the legal CORRECT way instead of waiting for the USA government to do so.
Well perhaps you know that the majority of people that came here the non-visa way had absolute no chance of coming here legally under the requirements this country has. The immigration system is outdated, the American Dream only exists to those who already have money in their country. Or should poor people from our countries just starve to death because they should not break an outdated US law ? people have to violate unjust laws for there to be change (Immigration Reform).
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