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Do Lawful or Out-of-Status nonimmigrants Qualify for the Dream Act? - Page 2

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01-10-2014, 07:36 PM
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First of all you need to stop being bitter about this, see, you have the choice to had broken the law and have that expired but you didn't. DACA wasnt made for situation when above 18 people had the choice to make, some people here were really brought through no fault of their own and some even curse their parents for doing so.
And like so, you had the choice to leave the country when your were 18 ( an adult), and later enter gain legally. But you didn't make that choice, life is all about choices. OP is bitter but he is absolutely right to be bitter, like him, there are many young adults who have been here for most of their life with non-immigrant visa. A visa that they did not choose but was given to them through their parents, through no fault of their own. I really do hope that if there is an immigration reform, that people that have had non-immigrant visas so X number of years would automatically get their green card. I wonder if that were to happen, would you be bitter?
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01-10-2014, 10:48 PM
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And like so, you had the choice to leave the country when your were 18 ( an adult), and later enter gain legally. But you didn't make that choice, life is all about choices. OP is bitter but he is absolutely right to be bitter, like him, there are many young adults who have been here for most of their life with non-immigrant visa. A visa that they did not choose but was given to them through their parents, through no fault of their own. I really do hope that if there is an immigration reform, that people that have had non-immigrant visas so X number of years would automatically get their green card. I wonder if that were to happen, would you be bitter?
I am not being bitter. I am just saying that we all feel American the same way. I also came here as a dependent child you had no choice. The only difference is that I switched visas for college. I am happy for you guys that you received DACA. And at the end of the day we all have a choice to go back "home" legal or not legal or out of status or whatever. I guess I am upset because the law is putting limits on when visas expire yet not making the legal immigration system easier.
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01-10-2014, 10:53 PM
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And also every time I talk to lawyers and friends about my situation they feel my pain. They get upset that I am here lawfully since childhood (well preteens) and do not qualify for anything. I am not bashing the undocumented. I just feel like any common sense reform should include nonimmigrant youth who otherwise qualify but after reading the Senate bill I see that it does not. Oh well.
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01-10-2014, 10:56 PM
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And like so, you had the choice to leave the country when your were 18 ( an adult), and later enter gain legally. But you didn't make that choice, life is all about choices. OP is bitter but he is absolutely right to be bitter, like him, there are many young adults who have been here for most of their life with non-immigrant visa. A visa that they did not choose but was given to them through their parents, through no fault of their own. I really do hope that if there is an immigration reform, that people that have had non-immigrant visas so X number of years would automatically get their green card. I wonder if that were to happen, would you be bitter?
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I am not being bitter. I am just saying that we all feel American the same way. I also came here as a dependent child you had no choice. The only difference is that I switched visas for college. I am happy for you guys that you received DACA. And at the end of the day we all have a choice to go back "home" legal or not legal or out of status or whatever. I guess I am upset because the law is putting limits on when visas expire yet not making the legal immigration system easier.
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First of all you need to stop being bitter about this, see, you have the choice to had broken the law and have that expired but you didn't. DACA wasnt made for situation when above 18 people had the choice to make, some people here were really brought through no fault of their own and some even curse their parents for doing so.



Obama never said anything, it seems you want to be treated like a typical bitter person who comes here ready to start blaming their problems on other people. So yes your only way is through marriage so I suggest you change your attitude and find someone

Please do not be rude. Maybe I do have someone. Maybe I don't want to get married because I consider myself too young for that and the marriage process has it's own risks. I just want to know if I will be eligible. Relax.
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01-10-2014, 11:21 PM
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And like so, you had the choice to leave the country when your were 18 ( an adult), and later enter gain legally. But you didn't make that choice, life is all about choices. OP is bitter but he is absolutely right to be bitter, like him, there are many young adults who have been here for most of their life with non-immigrant visa. A visa that they did not choose but was given to them through their parents, through no fault of their own. I really do hope that if there is an immigration reform, that people that have had non-immigrant visas so X number of years would automatically get their green card. I wonder if that were to happen, would you be bitter?


EXACTLY but I am not being bitter about it nor have I shown obvious signs as TC has. Care to point them out? I love it when bitter people try to mirror that out on people, "well well you had the choice too!" YES we did but we are not being bitter about this again I would like you to come and point it out.


Some of us "took" that risk of staying here and go "rewarded?" if you dont like DACA I suggest you email USCIS and let them how it isnt fair for those people following the law.
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01-10-2014, 11:22 PM
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Please do not be rude. Maybe I do have someone. Maybe I don't want to get married because I consider myself too young for that and the marriage process has it's own risks. I just want to know if I will be eligible. Relax.
I wish you the best and that you find someway through this immigration system. Your story is another example on the complexity of US immigration law. I know that without an immigration reform, I will have to marry (hopefully it would be someone I stay the rest of my life with).

My advice is to find a way to maintain your legal status here in the US for as long as possible. If a reform were to happen then it could open channels for you within a new merit-based system. When a reform is imminent, read the laws, have a lawyer interpret the new laws, it may be that it helps you.
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01-10-2014, 11:24 PM
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Please do not be rude. Maybe I do have someone. Maybe I don't want to get married because I consider myself too young for that and the marriage process has it's own risks. I just want to know if I will be eligible. Relax.
I really have nothing again but lots of time people with the attitude that you showed in your OP come here, play the whole, Gosh! Maybe , I, too should break the law and get DACA!, say how they are not bitter and then show their true colors, its like a self mechanism to be honest.

I know people (family mostly) who applied to come here, complained about how its not fair people come here illegal and fix their status through marriage, which makes them wait because now the line is longer, then once theyre here. And their visa expires they stay.
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01-10-2014, 11:25 PM
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My advice is to find a way to maintain your legal status here in the US for as long as possible. If a reform were to happen then it could open channels for you within a new merit-based system. When a reform is imminent, read the laws, have a lawyer interpret the new laws, it may be that it helps you.
I am not 100% sure but I am somewhat sure, come immigration reform passes (if ever) these people like TC might get a better path than us
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01-11-2014, 02:57 AM
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I think we have to understand that DACA is designed for a very very very specific group of kids.

"I fit all the DACA criteria and I'm an excellent farmer but didn't go to any school."
"I fit all the DACA criteria but I've only been here for 4 years and 364 days."
"I fit all the DACA criteria but I was in lawful status."

Unfortunately, lines had to be drawn somewhere and some always get left out. And I truly feel sorry for them. If your case deserve attention, lobby for it. Or get a private bill sponsored.

Again, the idea is to understand and accept that DACA is designed for a very very very specific group of kids.
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At the end of the day, we're all at the mercy of an immigration system that's a huge clusterfuck. There are trade-offs to both paths. But in the end, can we just agree that in spite of what some may argue, it is a broken system that needs an overhaul?
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