Hillary 2016: It's Offical. - Page 5

The elected officials of this country. Regardless of whether we are considered their constituents or not their decisions sometimes have a direct effect on us. Over the history of this country disenfranchised groups have stood up to demand change, all I'm saying is that in the areas where we can we should try to do the same.

Couldn't have said it better! It goes without saying that peacefully organizing and rallying for change is necessary but acting like something is owed or sounding ungrateful is never a good look for us.

I'm all for standing up but it's ridiculous to already be poopooing Hillary and demanding that people running make us their #1 priority. This isn't a wishing for unlimited wishes type of thing.

obama didnt enact it in 2010 cause he was pushing for the dream act. obama didnt even think it was legal to do until he had his lawyers work on it after the dream act was filibustered. ir doesnt depend on hilary or the democrats being it actually depends on the republicans. specifically if the leadership corals the big right wing voices in the party. thats why theyve(ir) always failed in the past. never underestimate just how quickly these guys can stir shit up against ir.

It's just a political game guys...

You just want a democrat in the white house to keep our DACA being renewed for another four years.

I want a republican to be a president to see if he has the balls to get rid of DACA. That's not going to happen

It's just a political game guys.

DACA isnt untouchable and it can very well end with the next president.

Just to be clear, immigration is an issue that affects many U.S. citizens. Lots of people live in mixed-status families, so I am not sure how by enacting immigration reform quickly in his first year--as he promised!--Obama would have been pandering to the undocumented. In the sense that this issue affects those citizens it affects in a very bad way, I think it would have been very justifiable for him to have moved quickly--regardless of whether some people in this forum wish to throw around the words "illegals" and "pandering" as though this website is WND or redstate.com, or some similarly extreme right-wing website. Sometimes it amazes me how far-right wing talking points on immigration has penetrated in our society that even the very victims of their terrible rhetoric take up their ideas and run with them.

Those of you who make arguments about the financial crisis of 2008, neglect to address the fact that Obama enacted a Republican healthcare law as his signature first term achievement. And that had nothing to do with strengthening the economy, no matter how much the Democrats wish to make it seem as though it did. The Stimulus and Frank-Dodd could have easily happened at the same time as immigration reform if the Democrats had only willed it; perhaps by now they would have been able to enact a better health reform law than Obamacare.

In any event, one thing is for certain, if Obama had not dragged his feet on the DAPA extension and announced it in the summer of 2014, it could not have hurt the results in the November elections (the dumbass Blue Dog Democrats in the Senate they were trying to protect would have lost anyway), and it would have meant that the resolution in the courts would have been much further along by now. It might have even helped the Dems in places like Colorado where low Hispanic turnout hurt them.

so what kind of immigration are we talking about, you are not one of those people who think borders don't exist now are you

lets not forget it was his husband who also made it difficult for illegal aliens here

Whats clear is that Immigration has Never been a real pressing issue or a priority in the United States. It has always been a political football. These mixed families you speak of have had to live with the lack of any kind of action because that is the reality for us. No amount of demanding is going to enact immigration relief, its usually a political move or a sitting president who decides it's the right thing to do. A lot of folks are out of touch with reality about how hard it is to push through immigration changes. There has only ever been 1 recent significant amnesty----- ONLY 1 .....why do you think that is? It annoys me when I see comments criticizing that the president didn't do enough because he didn't have to do anything at all.