Dems brace for immigration battle

Ianus · 10-24-2016, 03:34 PM

http://origin-nyi.thehill.com/homene...f-clinton-wins

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Democrats are bracing for a fierce fight over immigration on Capitol Hill if Hillary Clinton wins the White House on Nov. 8.

Clinton has promised to send a comprehensive immigration reform bill to Congress within her first 100 days in office if elected, and Hispanic groups plan to make sure she keeps her word.

Sen. Charles Schumer (D-N.Y.), who stands to become the new Senate majority leader if Democrats win control of the upper chamber, has also staked out immigration reform as a top priority, though he won’t discuss timing.

But the prospect of a battle on immigration reform is causing jitters among Senate Democrats.

The party must defend 25 seats in the next election cycle, including seats in Republican-leaning states such as Indiana, North Dakota, West Virginia, Missouri and Montana — all of which Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump seems likely to win.

Vulnerable Democrats facing reelection in 2018 know that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.) will seek to use an immigration reform bill against them.

“McConnell will be on the immediate hunt to win back the Republican majority, and the 2018ers will be gun-shy out of the gate,” said one senior Senate Democratic aide.

“They’re worried about what can get done before 2018. They’re already freaking out.”

The other big piece of legislation many see as coming down the pike if Clinton is elected is an infrastructure investment package.

While liberal and centrist Democrats broadly support a push for infrastructure spending, some Democrats would rather see Clinton emphasize that issue over immigration. They say they want her to focus on jobs and the economy instead of becoming embroiled in a bitter, partisan fight over immigration reform — which they also argue could make an infrastructure push more difficult.

“You have only a couple of bites at the apple in your honeymoon,” the Democratic aide added, referring to the first hundred days of the new administration.

“Getting something done that can pass the House like an infrastructure bill is a benefit to the 2018ers. That will be at the front of everyone’s mind,” the source said. “They’ll be worried about passing immigration reform.”

Clinton’s campaign staff says she is equally committed to moving an infrastructure investment package and immigration reform in the first few months of the priority and doesn’t see it as an either/or proposition.

“In terms of big legislative items, she has said she wants to prioritize comprehensive immigration reform and an infrastructure jobs package in the first hundred days,” said Clinton campaign spokesman Brian Fallon.

“Both of those issues are things that she’s discussed all the way through from the primary to the general. They are priorities that are consensus proposals that have strong support in the country, and thirdly they are both things that in a normal environment Republicans in the past have been inclined to support,” he added.

Fallon noted that Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) in concept supports both infrastructure investment and immigration reform.

“If she wins, it will be in the best interests of Republicans to want to work on those things since they are consensus proposals,” he said.

Clinton and other Democrats pushing immigration reform are betting that Republicans will conduct a post-election analysis — similar to the report produced after Mitt Romney lost to President Obama in 2012 — that will find they need to improve the party’s standing among Hispanic voters.

That, they think, will give Ryan and other Republican leaders strong incentive to work with Democrats on immigration reform instead of turning it into a partisan fight to knock off vulnerable red-state Democrats in 2018.

“I would expect if Hillary Clinton is successful, Republicans will again face a scenario similar to the 2012 aftermath where they penned an entire autopsy saying they needed to get right with key constituencies, including by enacting comprehensive immigration reform,” Fallon said.

Schumer told NBC’s John Harwood in an interview this week that he thinks both immigration reform and an infrastructure package can pass in the new Congress.

He said both policies come to mind because they are backed by Clinton, Ryan and himself.

Schumer predicted that “mainstream conservatives in the Senate and House” will tell “the hard right,” who are staunchly opposed to immigration reform, to “go take a hike” if they try to quash reform.

Schumer, however, is staying away from getting into any details on timing and what the bill might look like until after he knows if Democrats will have a Senate majority — and how big it is.

“We’ll wait and see. These are all the conversations that happen in a transition or early next year. We’re not going to speculate one way or the other,” said a Senate Democratic aide.

The Senate approved comprehensive immigration reform legislation in 2013 with 68 votes. Every Senate Democrat backed it, including vulnerable members, some of whom were defeated in 2014 when the party lost its majority. Thirteen Republicans also voted for the package.

But the bill died in the GOP-controlled House when then-Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) refused to bring a companion measure to the floor.

Some Democrats question whether the politics of the issue have changed after the emergence of strong anti-immigrant sentiment in the Republican presidential primary.

Trump won the GOP nomination by pledging to build a wall along the U.S.-Mexico border and taking a much harder stance against illegal immigration. He reiterated in Wednesday’s debate that giving illegal residents a path to citizenship would be unfair to millions of people who have waited in line to enter the country legally.

There is also skepticism about whether Ryan, who some think could be a White House contender himself in 2020, would schedule votes on immigration reform — especially a package that includes a path to citizenship, as Clinton wants.

Ryan’s office said Friday that he hopes he won’t be working with Clinton next year.

“Our focus right now is on defeating Democrats including Hillary,” said AshLee Strong, Ryan’s spokeswoman.

Grover Norquist, the anti-tax activist who is close with Republican leaders and has backed immigration reform, predicts that it will be very difficult to pass immigration reform next year because Republicans don’t trust Clinton.
“Just because there just isn't the trust, it's awfully tough to do this thing," he said. "Comprehensive [reform] is when you at least trust the other guy enough that when you walk out the door everything will get done,” he said.

Brent Wilkes, the national executive director of the League of United Latin American Citizens, which supports comprehensive immigration reform, said that former Sen. Ken Salazar (D-Colo.), who is heading Clinton’s transition team, has promised advocacy groups that the issue will be a top priority.

He acknowledged, however, that advocacy groups feel they need to reach out to white working-class voters who back Trump to repair the damage they feel this year’s divisive debate has done to their cause.

While Trump is trailing in the polls in several moderate Senate battlegrounds this year, such as New Hampshire and Pennsylvania, he is doing well in red states where Senate Democrats face reelection in 2018, such as Indiana and Missouri.

vivace · 10-24-2016, 03:58 PM

We hear this every four years. The GOP will do another "autopsy" and announce that the party will increase outreach among Latinos. And...then nothing will happen.

Remember Obama's first 100 days? Where was immigration then?

DogJuiceMan · 10-24-2016, 07:08 PM

The GOP can't do any outreach towards latinos because if they do they alienate their main constituency and then they are at zero.

Zero cause latinos don't trust them, Zero because the constituency is inherently xenophobic.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 10-24-2016, 07:51 PM

2Face and Chyno will everything they can to stop a CIR

2Face · 10-24-2016, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Pianoswithoutfaith

2Face and Chyno will everything they can to stop a CIR

2face and Chyno are also responsible for you being such a worthless piece of shit in life. Go ahead man, blame us for all your shortcomings. That many Chyno is probably running a huge hedge fund right now ever since he got banished from DAP while you're still here whacking off like a loser, which you will continue to be doing even after CIR passes. Face it, you're one of the dumbest people to ever post on this forum. You will get a medal one day for your 10,000+ posts though, so sit tight.

Dres2011 · 10-24-2016, 09:39 PM

just get the Dream Act passed please.

DogJuiceMan · 10-24-2016, 11:51 PM

A hedge fund? Damn the Salvatruchas promote quick. I guess he was a quick thinker and good at math too! Wow! Good for him, he deserves a lucky break in his life.

If Chyno really cared about coming back, he would just come back. If he's IP banned all he has to do is reset his little router/Modem. Easy peasy. Accounts are cheap. Get a disposable email address. Make a couple accounts. Talk is cheap 2face.

While I may not see eye to eye with Piano, here you are wrong to call him a loser and say he is just "whacking off". He has not given any sort of hint as to what he does outside of the forum, for all you know he could be a bagger at walmart, or a bussinessman, or a trucker, who knows, who cares. All that matters is that he's in the same boat as we are, and it's beneficial for you trump "supporters" to get in line behind hillary or you'll be on the bus to the southern mexican border if you can't prove you're mexican.

I put supporters in quotes because you've clearly stated you do NOT support him, but your arguments lend hints towards having accepted and internalized the propaganda. Fight the propaganda, it's harmful to your stay in the US.

DACA-IR-DA · 10-25-2016, 01:16 AM

Schumer introduced a bill in Senate in before so he is the best choice for Speaker.

Pianoswithoutfaith · 10-25-2016, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 2Face

I better write a thesis about what I think about you

Yup!!

Pianoswithoutfaith · 10-25-2016, 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by DogJuiceMan

A hedge fund? Damn the Salvatruchas promote quick. I guess he was a quick thinker and good at math too! Wow! Good for him, he deserves a lucky break in his life.

If Chyno really cared about coming back, he would just come back. If he's IP banned all he has to do is reset his little router/Modem. Easy peasy. Accounts are cheap. Get a disposable email address. Make a couple accounts. Talk is cheap 2face.

While I may not see eye to eye with Piano, here you are wrong to call him a loser and say he is just "whacking off". He has not given any sort of hint as to what he does outside of the forum, for all you know he could be a bagger at walmart, or a bussinessman, or a trucker, who knows, who cares. All that matters is that he's in the same boat as we are, and it's beneficial for you trump "supporters" to get in line behind hillary or you'll be on the bus to the southern mexican border if you can't prove you're mexican.

I put supporters in quotes because you've clearly stated you do NOT support him, but your arguments lend hints towards having accepted and internalized the propaganda. Fight the propaganda, it's harmful to your stay in the US.

I am homeless ;_;

I dont get 2face all, how the heck can this guy be on the same boat as us, when hes literally posting things like

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Originally Posted by 2Face

When I become a citizen I am voting Republican..straight up.

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