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Sanders: WH will release legislative framework on immigration reform on Monday - Page 10

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are you serious? what about DACA'ers who have disabilities and who can't work?

fyi, if they don't make that 125% requirement, they just dont lose their status, they will be criminalized.


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Considering we are suppose to be the "educated" crowd, being 125% over poverty line should not be a big deal.

stay away from arts and craft majors!
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I know these are hard times, but anyone advocating for the Goodlatte bill because it's probably the only option in this political climate is a complete moron.

Thousands would not qualify, and many more would get kicked out as time goes on. Not to mention the damage it would do to millions of other people such as CITIZENS trying to sponsor family members.

That shit bill is not intended for DACA relief, the only goal is to push hard right immigration ideologies under the guise of helping DACA recipients and "protecting" the country while making sure that the least amount of people possible benefit from it.
Well said.

I've never seen a bill as cruel as the goodlatte bill. I honestly did not think these people were this evil, even I was surprised.

Consider that the requirements never expire. Meaning that when you're 80 years old, you still need to be making 125% of the poverty level or you get deported. There are some absolutely ridiculous provisions like the need to pay back tax credits/deductions that would cost us thousands of dollars. They also expect 18 year olds to immediately start working/going to college and expect them to pay a $1000 fine within 1 year. How many broke college kids have $1000 to spare?

I couldn't believe what they put in this bill. Words cannot describe how evil these people are.
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The bill requires Dreamers to repay to the US government any refunds that they receive from tax credits. I have never seen any provision like this in any bill.

The bill protects the smallest possible group of Dreamers—only those who are currently in DACA at the time of enactment may even apply under the higher evidentiary standard. DACA was an act of prosecutorial discretion for a narrow subset of Dreamers who needed work authorization

The bill also requires all recipients to maintain an income 125% of poverty line. Any Dreamers just starting out in the job market or with incomes below that can’t apply. DACA recipients who care for children or elderly parents can’t apply. Disabled DACA recipients can’t apply.

This income requirement continues *forever* no matter what. It demonstrates that the House GOP considers DACA recipients nothing more than the workers, not Americans or people independent of the value of the labor—and only if they maintain a certain level of productivity.


This status would not come with the automatic right to travel outside the country either. Dreamers would have to pay even more fees to apply to DHS. And they couldn’t leave for more than 2 weeks at a time. No long vacations, study abroad, extended family emergencies.


If Dreamers become poor, take too long vacation, or leave school for 90 days for any reason, they would not only be deported—they would be criminals. First offense, up to 6 months in federal prison. A second offense, up to 2 years. THIS is the status the GOP is offering Dreamers


and thats just the tip of the iceberg, you guys are srsly considering this?
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About $20K. People working under the table make more than that.
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You’re missing the bigger picture here. Let’s say you and your love one has an accident and for some reason you have to take a leave of absence. Well guess what? If during those days your out you fall below their poverty line they can easily deport you and you become a criminal.
What if you have long term disability insurance? Wouldn't that keep you from falling below the 125% mark? This could be a safety measure people should consider.
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whats 125% above the poverty line?
17500 to 23k.
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You’re missing the bigger picture here. Let’s say you and your love one has an accident and for some reason you have to take a leave of absence. Well guess what? If during those days your out you fall below their poverty line they can easily deport you and you become a criminal.
Not necessarily, I assume that Goodlatte has not taken into consideration both individuals could just file jointly....lol. There is also long and short term disability through your employer as mentioned by another.
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Can we still not sponsor our parents if we become citizen through marriage?
we cant but worry about tomm and not 15 years from now.
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The bill requires Dreamers to repay to the US government any refunds that they receive from tax credits. I have never seen any provision like this in any bill.

The bill protects the smallest possible group of Dreamers—only those who are currently in DACA at the time of enactment may even apply under the higher evidentiary standard. DACA was an act of prosecutorial discretion for a narrow subset of Dreamers who needed work authorization

The bill also requires all recipients to maintain an income 125% of poverty line. Any Dreamers just starting out in the job market or with incomes below that can’t apply. DACA recipients who care for children or elderly parents can’t apply. Disabled DACA recipients can’t apply.

This income requirement continues *forever* no matter what. It demonstrates that the House GOP considers DACA recipients nothing more than the workers, not Americans or people independent of the value of the labor—and only if they maintain a certain level of productivity.


This status would not come with the automatic right to travel outside the country either. Dreamers would have to pay even more fees to apply to DHS. And they couldn’t leave for more than 2 weeks at a time. No long vacations, study abroad, extended family emergencies.


If Dreamers become poor, take too long vacation, or leave school for 90 days for any reason, they would not only be deported—they would be criminals. First offense, up to 6 months in federal prison. A second offense, up to 2 years. THIS is the status the GOP is offering Dreamers


and thats just the tip of the iceberg, you guys are srsly considering this?
Thank you for talking some sense into some people here!
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What if you have long term disability insurance? Wouldn't that keep you from falling below the 125% mark? This could be a safety measure people should consider.
As other members said, is a poison pill, in any chance YOU will be out of the program. Because this bill is individual, in any place of the bill said 'family member" or 'spouse's.
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our only hope is the supreme court, if that only stand
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