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Death Kiss -False Claims to US Citizen - Page 9

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On one of this threads one fellow dreamer stated that he/she tried to enter the US by claiming USC. And that a form I-831 was given to him/her.
That's true it's a 50/50 thing. It's a gamble.
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Yes, I read that also. The government can reverse your status at anytime and even if you're a citizen. I would be curious thought. Where do they deport you when they overturn your citizenship and you renounce your citizenship of your birth country?
Actually...no. It is difficult to loose Citizenship IF it is the only one you have. Denaturalization requires overwhelmingly clear and convincing evidence.
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Actually...no. It is difficult to loose Citizenship IF it is the only one you have. Denaturalization requires overwhelmingly clear and convincing evidence.
So no human in this world can be without citizenship? Isn't a requirement for being a US citizen, you have to renounce any other citizenship?
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So no human in this world can be without citizenship? Isn't a requirement for being a US citizen, you have to renounce any other citizenship?
From what I know, you cannot technically loose Citizenship if it is the only one you have. However, if you are naturalized that would mean proving and officially renouncing your birth Citizenship for the effect.
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You can renounce whatever citizenship the USA asks you. But just because you renounce it here doesn't mean your country of birth has.

Claiming citizenship is a big no for the purpose of benefiting of any federal benefits. But aside from this I don't think they're gonna care much.
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Yes, I read that also. The government can reverse your status at anytime and even if you're a citizen. I would be curious thought. Where do they deport you when they overturn your citizenship and you renounce your citizenship of your birth country?
Yes thats another interesting topic. Most of the stuff that Ive read were tgat people are getting caught when they either adjust for LPR or adjust to citizenship. I haven't seen something yet about one as a citizen and had to get it revoked. I also read that your A# on file will remain open until naturalization. When you become a citizen, that is when your A# file gets closed. It'll take a lot of effort and digging through old files for them to get such evidence. It'll also cost them money which I don't think they'd want to spend.
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You can renounce whatever citizenship the USA asks you. But just because you renounce it here doesn't mean your country of birth has.

Claiming citizenship is a big no for the purpose of benefiting of any federal benefits. But aside from this I don't think they're gonna care much.
Yes when I was reading past cases. Some people who were adjusting to LPR have been caught for false claim. Some cases, one has multiple false claim. I did read about 2 different cases. Both had claimed to be a USC in their college application but they also claimed to be one on their I-9. However, the prosecutors mainly focused on the I-9 claims. So Idk why they disregard the other false claim. Both cases were denied for a petition review by the BIA and I believe both petitioner were deported based on that.
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One of my friends who adjusted recently for whatever reason his high school had him as a USA citizen. Which raises suspicions but ultimately got adjusted with out incident. If you go on the streets and yell you're a USA citizen no one is gonna care. But on a federal form ? Yeah they're gonna cars
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One of my friends who adjusted recently for whatever reason his high school had him as a USA citizen. Which raises suspicions but ultimately got adjusted with out incident. If you go on the streets and yell you're a USA citizen no one is gonna care. But on a federal form ? Yeah they're gonna cars
How did he do that?? Adjustment to LPR has the question "Have you ever claimed to be a USC??" Either he put no or he put yes and explained to them why, we don't know. Let's jist hope they don't find out and get his adjustment revoked. Btw, didn't he send some DACA school info?? I think they check all the things you submit including Marriage and DACA (of he is a DACA recipient). Did he go to college?? Did he put himself as a USC??
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Actually...no. It is difficult to loose Citizenship IF it is the only one you have. Denaturalization requires overwhelmingly clear and convincing evidence.
US is not a signatory to the 1951 convention on reduction of statelessness. They might have a difficulty in removing you if there's no country on the planet that will take you since you're now stateless, but they aren't legally obligated by anything to keep you.

Still, burden of proof is on the government to prove you somehow committed fraud, and in third circuit (only one that actually interpreted INA 246 correctly) they only have 5 years since date of adjustment to review your case, afterwards you're fine even if there's serious problems.
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