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Deferred Enforcement for Venezuelans - Page 4

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01-20-2021, 03:25 PM
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such a bullshit move... fights deferred action for 4 years then grants deferred action to Venezuelans on his last days in power...Trump sucks ass..
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Oh, how sad. Such a difficult situation!
He must have posted all those shameless pro-Trump posts and made countless excuses and given Trump the benefit of the doubt on here the last 4 years surely due to his coworkers and boss checking his posts on here too, eh?
Nope, but he surely thought Trump could fix it and just wanted relief. That doesn't make him a Trump supporter. He isn't one. You would place that same label on anyone who didn't go along with your clean dream act bullshit.
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didn't go along with your clean dream act bullshit.
Not gonna keep the up with the 2Face bullshit. His post history speaks for itself. However, you're also wrong about me asking for a clean Dream Act. Never have I ever posted that I wanted that. So, please show me where you are getting that from... Aside from what you already made up in your mind, of course.
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Nope, but he surely thought Trump could fix it and just wanted relief. That doesn't make him a Trump supporter. He isn't one. You would place that same label on anyone who didn't go along with your clean dream act bullshit.
Speaking to this guy is fruitless. I'd let him go. Dude was legit expecting Green Cards to come with only Democrats passing it. If you say Republicans will be needed to pass bills, you will become a "Trumper" lol....
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Dude was legit expecting Green Cards to come with only Democrats passing it.
Like I asked you directly last week, show me where I said that. You couldn't show me a single post last week and guess what? You can't today because you're making that up.
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Not gonna keep the up with the 2Face bullshit. His post history speaks for itself. However, you're also wrong about me asking for a clean Dream Act. Never have I ever posted that I wanted that. So, please show me where you are getting that from... Aside from what you already made up in your mind, of course.
Oh yeah sure. You went full blown bitch mode on here attacking anyone who wanted a compromise bill.

Are you going to bitch about Biden and his bipartisan approach to policy too?
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Oh yeah sure. You went full blown bitch mode on here attacking anyone who wanted a compromise bill.

Are you going to bitch about Biden and his bipartisan approach to policy too?
You will find plenty of those people on here. They will say "You're delusional for thinking that Republicans will help in passing a bill..." Mofos don't get the simple process of how bills pass....
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Like I asked you directly last week, show me where I said that. You couldn't show me a single post last week and guess what? You can't today because you're making that up.
I don't have the time to look shit up, but you've implied that on numerous occassions. Even based on the questions you were asking about why I'm so sure about what I'm saying... It's okay. As long as you realize that you will not be getting anything without Republican votes, that's all that matters.

You are obsessed, you need to forget about the past and live in the present...Nobody gives a shit about Trump any more...Dudes gone..history... Even big time Senators supported him and ditched him last minute..That's how shit works...You gotta use the person you're working with to get shit done...after that, dump him...in politics that is.
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Gentlemen, please. Stop conflating completely different things.
Saying it is reasonable to believe Republicans will not support sensible reform for us does not equate to:
a) Calling for a clean Dream Act. (Smooth)
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b) Expecting the Dream Act or sensible relief to pass with only Dem support and votes. (2Face)

Please fix all the loose screws in your head.
My stance, once again:
I do not think Congress can pass sensible reform (i.e. a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers) if it will require Republican support. I would love for Dems and Republicans to come together and pass reasonable reform, but I have no faith in Congress, both sides, but especially Republicans. Those of you that have faith in them, especially Republicans, to support reasonable relief for us have little to go off on considering this Dreamer issue has been going on for over 10 years and the broader immigration reform "effort" has be going on for decades. Biden is not going to unify and heal, when Republicans have a history of "party first", falling in line, and being obstructionists, including just a few days ago with delaying Biden's DHS nominee. Again, there is absolutely not good faith to off of there. There's nothing there.

Dems also so not have the balls to do some mudslinging and play dirty like Republicans to get their agenda done.

Given the above, my stance is for Dreamers to be realistic, take advance of the the new administration (who is not actively seeking to deport them), and try to find existing avenues to gain relief. Hopefully, Biden passes executive actions to broaden DACA and make entry with inspection for Dreamers to utilize down the road for AOS easier. If something passes through Congress, fantastic, but do not hold your breath.



EDIT: Also 2Face, you keep saying we all need to work with the new admin and we need to work to get this solution made, etc. etc. etc. Practically speaking, what the hell do you mean by that and what are you doing, specially, aside from making posts here? Are you organizing demonstrations? Volunteering time? Calling senators? Are you like, drafting up legislation language and sending them to congressional committees on immigration? Are you a congressional intern helping with immigration studies and reporting? WTF do you mean when you keep spewing that, we need to work with the new administration? How exactly, practically speaking and what are you doing to contribute to that "work"?
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Gentlemen, please. Stop conflating completely different things.
Saying it is reasonable to believe Republicans will not support sensible reform for us does not equate to:
a) Calling for a clean Dream Act. (Smooth)
nor
b) Expecting the Dream Act or sensible relief to pass with only Dem support and votes. (2Face)

Please fix all the loose screws in your head.
My stance, once again:
I do not think Congress can pass sensible reform (i.e. a pathway to citizenship for Dreamers) if it will require Republican support. I would love for Dems and Republicans to come together and pass reasonable reform, but I have no faith in Congress, both sides, but especially Republicans. Those of you that have faith in them, especially Republicans, to support reasonable relief for us have little to go off on considering this Dreamer issue has been going on for over 10 years and the broader immigration reform "effort" has be going on for decades. Biden is not going to unify and heal, when Republicans have a history of "party first", falling in line, and being obstructionists, including just a few days ago with delaying Biden's DHS nominee. Again, there is absolutely not good faith to off of there. There's nothing there.

Dems also so not have the balls to do some mudslinging and play dirty like Republicans to get their agenda done.

Given the above, my stance is for Dreamers to be realistic, take advance of the the new administration (who is not actively seeking to deport them), and try to find existing avenues to gain relief. Hopefully, Biden passes executive actions to broaden DACA and make entry with inspection for Dreamers to utilize down the road for AOS easier. If something passes through Congress, fantastic, but do not hold your breath.



EDIT: Also 2Face, you keep saying we all need to work with the new admin and we need to work to get this solution made, etc. etc. etc. Practically speaking, what the hell do you mean by that and what are you doing, specially, aside from making posts here? Are you organizing demonstrations? Volunteering time? Calling senators? Are you like, drafting up legislation language and sending them to congressional committees on immigration? Are you a congressional intern helping with immigration studies and reporting? WTF do you mean when you keep spewing that, we need to work with the new administration? How exactly, practically speaking and what are you doing to contribute to that "work"?
Uh huh. You write this NOW. Very convenient.
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