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Joe Manchin says he will oppose a $3.5 trillion budget bill - Page 2

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09-02-2021, 09:42 PM
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I feel progressives are going to sink it it they drop that low.
okay, i raise you 1.8 trillion. lol
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Guys... Let me be perfectly clear with you. There is a 100% chance a reconciliation bill will pass both chambers of Congress. There is a 0% chance it will be 3.5 trillion. There is a 75% chance it will include the immigration provisions for dreamers.

All this nonsense is noise. The WH knows what Kyrsten sinema and Joe manchin are saying and when the time comes all the centrist and progressive will fall in line.
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okay, i raise you 1.8 trillion. lol
I am good with whatever number can get the votes we need
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he was never a yes vote to begin with so no changes here. Why can't they just drop the price tag and pass this shit...

This in-fighting happened when obama was in office and look where that got us. Why can't Dems see they need a major W after the ass-whooping the pass couple of month in the news and media.
you know nothing Jon Snow. You think Repugs are honest actors (and yes Manchin's a repug). You think they really care about inflation now and obstructionism to Obama's agenda was anything but a con power grab?

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Where was he when Trump exploded national bdebt
exactly. Where was he, probably cutting specific provisions in the CARES act for his lobbying buddies.
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Guys... Let me be perfectly clear with you. There is a 100% chance a reconciliation bill will pass both chambers of Congress. There is a 0% chance it will be 3.5 trillion. There is a 75% chance it will include the immigration provisions for dreamers.

All this nonsense is noise. The WH knows what Kyrsten sinema and Joe manchin are saying and when the time comes all the centrist and progressive will fall in line.
Damn you're so good. Can I have next week's lotto numbers that have a 75% of winning? You know, while you're on a roll with your awesome and accurate predictions?
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Guys... Let me be perfectly clear with you. There is a 100% chance a reconciliation bill will pass both chambers of Congress. There is a 0% chance it will be 3.5 trillion. There is a 75% chance it will include the immigration provisions for dreamers.

All this nonsense is noise. The WH knows what Kyrsten sinema and Joe manchin are saying and when the time comes all the centrist and progressive will fall in line.
Lol what? Where are you making these horrible percentage predictions ? Way off if you really know what it takes to get immigration passed in reconciliation
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I can't blame the guy. Dems want to give our handouts. It is 3.5 Trillion.. with a T. Who the fuck is going to pay for it?!

I am okay with current DACA situation if my taxes don't go up.
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Is this good or bad news? Also, is this source reliable?
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Just wait till (if) they add immigration to it. The R's will start screaming amnesty, border crisis, and fear monger using Afghanistan refugee nonsense. This will sway the moderates. Things are not looking good for Biden and Dems in general and Rs are goign to take advantage of that, amplify, and take to to midterms.

We don't even know how the parliamentarian will rule on the Byrd.

SCOTUS is pumping out BS backwards decisions thanks to the lovely additions by Trump (MAGA DACA trio, where you at?). So if nothing happens via legislation for us and DACA goes to SCOTUS eventually... yeah.

We're toast.
Mijo, the parliamentarian ONLY recommends what he/she thinks should happen which does not necessarily mean it’s a binding. That means the democrats and Vice President do not have to accept her recommendation. They can overrule her even if she says citizenship shouldn’t be included in the final bill.

Just had to mention that since everyone assumed her ruling really matters.
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