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Dems unveil immigration plan B - Page 2

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09-21-2021, 12:58 PM
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The registry date change seems simpler to do than adding any DACA specific legislation language. Seems to me like the registry date change would help more people as well.
I'm not trying to be negative but the parliamentarian's response to the Dems' proposal was that legalization had a bigger impact as policy than it did the budget. Wouldn't this also have a bigger policy impact?

TBH I think the only solution is for Dems to fulfill their promises and override the parliamentarian or have the VP overrule her. And if Kamala does come through (she won't) then let's see if there's 60 votes to override the VP's decision.
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I'm not trying to be negative but the parliamentarian's response to the Dems' proposal was that legalization had a bigger impact as policy than it did the budget. Wouldn't this also have a bigger policy impact?

TBH I think the only solution is for Dems to fulfill their promises and override the parliamentarian or have the VP overrule her. And if Kamala does come through (she won't) then let's see if there's 60 votes to override the VP's decision.
I think at this point the Dems are just making noise, why would the parliamentarian be ok updating the registry when she wasn't ok with the original proposal? essentially is the same thing except the qualifying population would be diffident. I think at this point we would be lucky if we get the 245i law reinstated.
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… parliamentarian's response to the Dems' proposal was that legalization had a bigger impact as policy than it did the budget… Wouldn't this also have a bigger policy impact.
Keep in mind that the registry date change can control the “impact” of the change by the date itself. If you want less impact you set the date further back. If more impact is desired set the date to a more recent date.
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I'm not trying to be negative but the parliamentarian's response to the Dems' proposal was that legalization had a bigger impact as policy than it did the budget. Wouldn't this also have a bigger policy impact?

TBH I think the only solution is for Dems to fulfill their promises and override the parliamentarian or have the VP overrule her. And if Kamala does come through (she won't) then let's see if there's 60 votes to override the VP's decision.
I also think Harris should override it. The analysis is flawed.
The proposal has huge budget impacts - especially in healthcare which accounts for 30% of the total economy in the U.S.
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Lol pretty sure she wont allow this just based on the wording of her ruling
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If they update the registry, there would be no special pathway to citizenship. We would join the backlog of green cards..
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Only DACA provision will pass
Is anything DACA even part of this plan B ? (I don’t think I saw any DACA provisions in the posted article)
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Lol to those of you who think daca dreamers are special enough to pass
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Lol to those of you who think daca dreamers are special enough to pass
Yeah I don’t get this either. Congress let unemployment benefits expired even though some States are still struggling, they let eviction protections expire, have not done anything about inflation, majority of Americans think we are on the wrong track, but when the courts rule against DACA they suddenly think Congress will be rushing and scrambling to save us..? Lol!
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