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Gavin Newsom floats November special election for his anti-Trump redistricting push - Page 2

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I think Newsom would have a hard time winning a national election because California is a state people love to hate on. His candidacy would be a referendum on everything people hate about California: the high cost of living, high crime rate, and illegal immigration are just a few ways his opponents can attack him.

Andy Beshear has a better chance in my opinion... He can carry the blue vote, and his connection to a red state might help him convert some red state voters. If he is paired with a swing state running mate, PA AZ, GA... it might be enough.

It is too early to say, but right now, Dems are in serious need of a leader and someone to unite the party.
I would agree. Beshear should be the one leading the ticket. I am concern that the Democrats may want to give Kamala "another chance" or select Pette Buttigieg as their next candidate. If either of those 2 get chosen as a nominee, we can kiss the 2028 election good-bye.
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If JD Vance gets elected... 8 years of ICE storm

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I think Newsom would have a hard time winning a national election because California is a state people love to hate on. His candidacy would be a referendum on everything people hate about California: the high cost of living, high crime rate, and illegal immigration are just a few ways his opponents can attack him.

Andy Beshear has a better chance in my opinion... He can carry the blue vote, and his connection to a red state might help him convert some red state voters. If he is paired with a swing state running mate, PA AZ, GA... it might be enough.

It is too early to say, but right now, Dems are in serious need of a leader and someone to unite the party.
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If JD Vance gets elected... 8 years of ICE storm

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If Democrats want to win, they must do the following:
  1. No more woman candidates. (They played the woman card twice and lost.)
  2. No gay candidates. (Pete Buttigieg will not be able to win a general election. If America wasn't ready for a woman President, they sure won't be ready for a gay President.)
  3. No California candidates. (I love CA, but the rest of the Country isn't ready to follow their lead.)
  4. No woke candidates. (Americans want to hear how they can afford food on the table, they could care less about your pronouns or having men playing in women's sport.)

If Democrats can avoid any of these 4 things, they may have a good chance at winning in 2028.
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If Democrats want to win, they must do the following:
  1. No more woman candidates. (They played the woman card twice and lost.)
  2. No gay candidates. (Pete Buttigieg will not be able to win a general election. If America wasn't ready for a woman President, they sure won't be ready for a gay President.)
  3. No California candidates. (I love CA, but the rest of the Country isn't ready to follow their lead.)
  4. No woke candidates. (Americans want to hear how they can afford food on the table, they could care less about your pronouns or having men playing in women's sport.)

If Democrats can avoid any of these 4 things, they may have a good chance at winning in 2028.
FINALLY, Copper. We agree on something.

As much as I would love Newsom as a candidate, he does have a lot of baggage. I just want Dems to win. Needs someone highly electable.
It might be a lesser burden on Dems since Republican dislike is going to be at an all-time high, making the bar Dems need to clear a bit lower
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If Democrats want to win, they must do the following:
  1. No more woman candidates. (They played the woman card twice and lost.)
  2. No gay candidates. (Pete Buttigieg will not be able to win a general election. If America wasn't ready for a woman President, they sure won't be ready for a gay President.)
  3. No California candidates. (I love CA, but the rest of the Country isn't ready to follow their lead.)
  4. No woke candidates. (Americans want to hear how they can afford food on the table, they could care less about your pronouns or having men playing in women's sport.)

If Democrats can avoid any of these 4 things, they may have a good chance at winning in 2028.
Agreed.

The Democrats need a Straight White Christian Male (SWCM) Presidential candidate to have any chance of winning 2028.
The VP Candidate should also be the same.

Then, they should strongly focus on the Economy.

No stupid stuff like focusing on Transgender Politics.
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Agreed.

The Democrats need a Straight White Christian Male (SWCM) Presidential candidate to have any chance of winning 2028.
The VP Candidate should also be the same.

Then, they should strongly focus on the Economy.

No stupid stuff like focusing on Transgender Politics.
That's unfortunately a smooth brained take. While Newsom is a complete whore who will say whatever he needs to truth to the matter is that democrats needs to focus on driving the turnout of their core supporters. Both Harris and Clinton tried to court the mythical swing voters, never-Trump republicans, and they both got wrecked. Harris paraded Liz Cheney around like she's the running mate (late in the campaign only thing missing was a nice cuck chair for Walz to sit in the corner) and her wishy washy stance on Gaza that then got spun into two different sets of attack adds.

Look at the NYC mayoral primary where Mamdani, a self-described socialist came out of nowhere and whooped Cuomo's ass. Israel somehow got forced into the issues for a local seat and his take on Israel didn't lose him any supporters because turns out that the average democrat feels a lot more for Gazans.

Now Newsom leap-frogged everyone else in the run for the democratic nomination in 2028 by calling for CA and other democratic states to pay in kind to Texas trying to gerrymander its districts further. Especially that he's got a concrete plan to achieve that - throw the amendment into a special election and if that fails just do it regardless in 2026 so the state supreme court will have the way out of shaking a stick at the new map but let it stand because it's too late to redo the ballots now. At least the dude is a scrapper and a scrapper is what the party needs.

Remember - aside in races involving some statistically anomalous popular politicians (e.g. Beshear (KY), Hogan (MD), Scott (VT)) most just vote straight ticket and that generally doesn't carry up, KY wouldn't vote for Beshear for president or senator, MD wouldn't vote for Hogan for senate either.
Elections are decided who has a bigger showing and demotivated voters will put the campaign sign in and then feel tired on election day and sit it out, or neglect to fill in and send in their ballot. With how thin the margins in some states have been, if that extra 1% turned up it'd flip.
Swing voters are basically a myth at this point. Everyone is polarized.
The never Trumpers are in the end of the day republicans, they just wish to return to the traditional Tea Party days, they'll either not vote, vote for a libertarian if one is running, or write in the late John McCain.
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That's unfortunately a smooth brained take. While Newsom is a complete whore who will say whatever he needs to truth to the matter is that democrats needs to focus on driving the turnout of their core supporters. Both Harris and Clinton tried to court the mythical swing voters, never-Trump republicans, and they both got wrecked. Harris paraded Liz Cheney around like she's the running mate (late in the campaign only thing missing was a nice cuck chair for Walz to sit in the corner) and her wishy washy stance on Gaza that then got spun into two different sets of attack adds.

Look at the NYC mayoral primary where Mamdani, a self-described socialist came out of nowhere and whooped Cuomo's ass. Israel somehow got forced into the issues for a local seat and his take on Israel didn't lose him any supporters because turns out that the average democrat feels a lot more for Gazans.

Now Newsom leap-frogged everyone else in the run for the democratic nomination in 2028 by calling for CA and other democratic states to pay in kind to Texas trying to gerrymander its districts further. Especially that he's got a concrete plan to achieve that - throw the amendment into a special election and if that fails just do it regardless in 2026 so the state supreme court will have the way out of shaking a stick at the new map but let it stand because it's too late to redo the ballots now. At least the dude is a scrapper and a scrapper is what the party needs.

Remember - aside in races involving some statistically anomalous popular politicians (e.g. Beshear (KY), Hogan (MD), Scott (VT)) most just vote straight ticket and that generally doesn't carry up, KY wouldn't vote for Beshear for president or senator, MD wouldn't vote for Hogan for senate either.
Elections are decided who has a bigger showing and demotivated voters will put the campaign sign in and then feel tired on election day and sit it out, or neglect to fill in and send in their ballot. With how thin the margins in some states have been, if that extra 1% turned up it'd flip.
Swing voters are basically a myth at this point. Everyone is polarized.
The never Trumpers are in the end of the day republicans, they just wish to return to the traditional Tea Party days, they'll either not vote, vote for a libertarian if one is running, or write in the late John McCain.
Well said, is time to Feel Bern! He will go all the way this time
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Well said, is time to Feel Bern! He will go all the way this time
He eighty fucking three years old and has never accomplished anything except moving "pie in the sky" voters out of line causing Ds to lose major elections they could have won. Give it a rest.

Time for the D party voting base to fall in line just like the R voting base does. R voters shut the hell up and vote for the majority candidate in their party. Period.
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Dems: party of the coastal elite, Woke, LGBTQ+, recent migrants.

GOP: party of the upper middle class, suburban wives, working men.

Dems might be done for generations.
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Dems: party of the coastal elite, Woke, LGBTQ+, recent migrants.

GOP: party of the upper middle class, suburban wives, working men.

Dems might be done for generations.
It's so sad to see how bad you want to be a Proud Boy.
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