Achieve Act (update) - Page 11

Originally Posted by Cloudless

This reminds me of the movie 'Lincoln' (which is an excellent movie, BTW). A black soldier complained to Lincoln of being paid less than white soldiers. All the soldier wanted was equal pay, then after several years perhaps the chance to be an officer, and after several more years maybe a Colonel. Remember, before the 14th Amendment they were not even citizens despite shedding blood like any other soldiers. The ability to vote, or even citizenship, was not in their vocabulary. They were raised as slaves, subhumans, to the point that they could not even fathom being equal with the rest of America.

I think those of you who supports the Achieve Act are still stuck with your old world mentality. This is USA, a country of immigrants. If you think USA should treat immigrants like your country does, then perhaps you should have stayed in your old country, because I sure as hell moved to USA, not to your old stinking country. I will NOT let you turn USA into your old country, USA is great precisely because it doesn't work like your old country.

Speaking of 'deserve', criminals have a lot of rights here in USA. They have the right to remain silent, the right to a reasonable bond, the right not to be tortured, the right to a free attorney if they can't afford it, the right to a speedy trial, the right to a trial by people of their peer, and so on and so forth. Do you think criminals DESERVE this? No, but it's not about coddling criminals, all these rights are about creating a just and humane society.

Originally Posted by immarcj

Some dreamers just received their EADs and they already feel they are superior and better than others, I'm starting to see more and more negative stuff around DAP these days, it's breaking us apart guys.

Originally Posted by Justin2014

Well said!! *APPLAUSE*

People who say we should just accept whatever they give you, they don't realize the all the limitation they will get into in their lifetime. This is once in a lifetime thing. After all republicans are only looking out for themselves, it is only fair we should look out for ourselves.

Originally Posted by Quemiras

Tell that to all those people that aged out of the DREAM Act because they were waiting, thinking they were limited by any little "crap bill". Think of all those people that were waiting since the last immigration reform. How long has it been? You can take that "limiting ourselves" nonsense to your illegal little grave. Again, for more than a decade the DREAM Act has been trying to pass, and because of people that won't "limit themselves" nothing has happened. If the achieve act would have passed a decade ago, or lets say that someone decided to "limit themselves" and compromise to that, then I would be a U.S. Citizen by now. But guess what, nothing happened and I'm still in a sorry situation. So are you. Who is limiting who? You think people are like you? Give me a bill like the ACHIEVE Act and you keep waiting for DREAM Act, we'll see in a decade who is "limited". You "applaud" to holding back others who can do something great with something as small as ACHIEVE. Not just because you can't do anything until it falls on your lap, means other people can't.