Do You Think It's Kinda Our Fault CIR or DREAM Hasn't Passed Yet? - Page 2

republicans are the problem, not us.

You should watch the documentary "Farmingville"

The complexity is a lot more significant. What differentiate us from the Occupy movement and the civil rights movement is what would take place if we get arrested.

The actions that have been planned so far, that have resulted in arrests are very well coordinated, and we usually consult with police departments, attain permits and have groups of lawyers advising on what we should do in order to be prepared when arrested. We seek lawyers to review our cases and determine whether there is a considerable risk for anyone specifically compared to everyone else. We ensure that there is considerable publicity in the few actions that we do and we try to reach as many people as possible, try to encourage them to follow in our footsteps and organize actions in their communities, we have even been involved with actions that have taken place in other states, usually planed by organizations in those communities.

It would be amazing to have a million people protesting, to occupy their systems and attempt to overwhelm them with too many people, but you have to realize, they have deported well over a million people in 4 years, and it will be very very hard to encourage people to take part into this, and it will undoubtedly result in the deportations of many thousands before there is any traction.

Politics tends to be slow and we end be being tried in a system of laws, not a system of justice or rights.

Thinking back to the civil rights movement and things right now, there are laws that are meant to be broken. Back then if you were black you could not be in certain places, you could not talk to certain people, and slavery was in existence, people where property, yet, right now, those laws where broken by a few people, which led to others breaking those laws. The Greensboro four and the seating (which may have actually started much earlier, I heard the story of a 14 year old girl who started a seating predating the Greensboro four by a few years. It was an account someone gave from a book that was printed during the time of such a transition.

I am not talking about telling senators our stories and leaving it at that, you are right, they will just ignore. The only thing they care about are those that will end up voting them, and the story needs to reach them, and it needs to be linked to those in power that say no, exposure of the benefits that they receive from denying basic human rights to some, shame as you called it.

There have been several actions taking place outside ICE offices, even inside ICE offices, it is not new, but the hopes is to encourage others to follow in our footsteps and be empowered to fight for their cause, their right to live in freedom, in liberty and with the pursuit of happiness.

100% agree. The quickly growing hispanic numbers is whats driving the fears that Americans have.

Heres what its like in their minds:
Guy 1: Yo hosei! I got this brand new apartment and my family is living there!
Guy 2: Oh really? Lets bring all the members across the border and have them live at your apartment!
Guy 1: We might as well produce 30 kids!
Guy 2: Lets make this our country!

and hence the GOP uses this as a shield to shoot down any bills short of deportation, by claiming it amnesty.

no, its the Congress. every single politician can eat shit! except Durbin...

FUCK YOU CONGRESS!!

One can argue both ways. At the same time that GOP hates growing Latinos, they must pay attention to Latinos because growing population = growing political power to Latinos.

So if there are enough millions of Latinos want Dream Act, they have to pass it.

Also GOP would make any excuse not to help minority (because minority votes for Democrats), even if it wasn't for growing Latino population..

in this case, GOP can't ignore Latino's voice since the Latino population is so big and growing that people must pay attention.

The problem is that out of 1-1.5 million registered voters, as few as 5000 might determine who the electoral votes go to for presidency in a state (I think it was Iowa that observed this in the last presidential election, but don't quote me on that).

There is a voter turnout issue in the United States and the Republicans are appealing to the extreme in hopes that they would be the most likely to turn up to the voting booths, that is why one of our strategies should also involved ensuring eligible voters vote for the policies they believe in.

As long as there is that dismal turnout for voting, anything can happen, including the unexpected.

I mean, look at the war on women, that sounds like political suicide to me, but Romney has been seen in this light and he has won in several states. (though I think if he gets elected for the GOP, that might be good for us, Obama and Romney have very different views on a lot of issues and with a strengthening economy that exceeds economists predictions and Romney's views on some issues, it might actually give some advantage to Obama. Obama's weakness at this point seems to be that the economy is not improving fast enough and his stance on energy, unfortunately).

just my opinion.