Stop Calling it "Rubios Dream Act" - Page 2

Originally Posted by Kevin1is7lucky

I see where yo are coming from and as an old dreamer I respect your views. I'm a very young dreamer, and fairly recent to the movement(apart from being undocumented my whole life). My views are very similar to yours. Not to disrespect dreamers, but some are so desperate they are fighting for something they haven't seen, and all the while completely bashing Democrats even though they are the reason we have a DREAM act in the first place. Somehow they twist it all to blame Democrats now, and praise Republicans. They are so bipolar. When I first started this forum all I heard was Republicans were all born in hell. Seriously many of these people are completely ridiculous. Its like they have never seen politics before. And they get so mad about Americans being ignorant because they don't support our cause. Just because they don't want amnesty doesn't make them ignorant. Of course there are some ignorant, racist people, but that is not a huge chunk of the populous. And I find all that to be ironically ignorant. Instead of hearing logical conclusions they argue about which politicians can go jump off a bridge or something. Sorry I had to rant.

Originally Posted by Dukem88

Lol thats ok... All i ever do in these forums is rant.. And occasionally put in my 2 cents on inportant issues(which are rare). And yea i agree with you people dont understand politics... They are hating the dems bc 5 of them shutdown the 2010 DA... Now they love the Gop bc they are coming out with their shitty version of the act.... If the tea party went and made a DA who do you think everyone would be rootig for.

Originally Posted by oneday123

I think the Dreamer community should stop referring to the Senators proposal as Rubio's Dream Act or the Republican Dream Act, It might hurt us in the long run because it will lower the bar for the "Dream Act". If it doesn't pass this year then the needle would have moved farther to the right in regards to the Dream Act. We should call it what it is, Rubio's proposition to help undocumented students.

Anyone agree with me on this?

Originally Posted by dreamy14

Isn't it called ICAN Act instead of DREAM? I think I read something about that.

Originally Posted by Dukem88

lets call it the bullshit dream act... you guys do realize what rubios version means right? i mean i bearly looked at the stuff about it that is out right now (yes i know all the details aint out yet) but it just looks to me that, if the bill passes... people will be put in a huge line behind all the overstays.... and possibly wait years for something to happen. This giving that you are in the military or in college in the mean while or is it just military im not even sure... but it all just looks fishy to me.

and all the shit about having to get a visa... and be able to apply for a visa and having to go back baaahh ive heard so much shit i dont even know where to begin. so i guess well have to wait for the facts... but as word is out right now it just doesnt look like a good clean option. Might be the only option people will have, but i dont think itll be a good one. at least compared to the DA i mean... the DA couldnt have been more clean and clear... it was military or school... then 5-6 years consecutively inside the us and without felonies... then papers. all the meanwhile getting temporary benefits until the green card.

ps. and another thing, Rubio is a republican "latino" how much more of a sell out can you be? I dont know if anyone was around when he got elected in FL... but he was cracking the Dreamer communities saying shit like "we should have made the "right" choice of going back to our native countries when we could." I even remember the big debates here on DAP at the time about him being cuban and being out of touch with dreamers.