Solis: Rubio's DREAM Act is 'half-cooked' - Page 2

Originally Posted by CB124

so then if Marco Rubio's bill passes, you won't sign up and you would prefer to stay illegal right?
Come on now it is straight politics. The democrats don't want anything to pass that way they can keep blaming republicans and making an election issue of it.

Originally Posted by dtrt09

Hmmmm...I think of all of Obama's mouthpieces, including this one (Solis), the one that really, really grates me is that ridiculous woman he bought off the Council of La Raza, Cecilia Munoz. And after reading that she tried to convince the Dreamers she met, not to support any legislative progess for Dream Act beneficiaries, I just cannot handle this much hypocrisy.

Obama's DHS and DOJ deny prosecutorial discretion to people rooted in this country for decades; continue to racial-profile Hispanics, then go after them like dogs in court; Federal Circuit Judges in the 9th circuit rule that adminstrative closure for non-criminal "aliens" is ridiculous, while the administration was cooking such f***king policy behind closed doors; and to top it off, they want Dreamers to continue to wait and be perpetual students and "kids".

News to everyone here and elsewhere, a 30 yr-old man or woman is NOT A KID. Many Dreamers have not pursued higher education or cannot afford higher education; many Dreamers are parents and the PURPOSE of the Dream Act is to gain residency through the pursuit of education. To believe that DAP is representative of Dreamers is a delusion, 2000+ members is nothing compared to the close to 2 million estimated DA beneficiaries. Half-cooked is the idea that a Dreamer will age out of any relief when Obama and the Dems won't lift a finger to pass legislation that protects from removal and grants temporary relief to people rooted in this country.

Originally Posted by hunto

i will apply forit if rubio bill pass so i can get social security. i dont care if i be illegal again cuz as long as you have social security u should be fine right?

the problem with rubio, it requires u to work in high skill field and irreplace able by american workers. i want to become policeman so it doesnt apply to me

Originally Posted by Kevin1is7lucky

I agree we don't need handouts, but I plan on graduating from college and going to the military for 4 years. I really want citizenship, and with the current DREAM act that is what I would get. But it really would not make sense for them to vote down Rubio's proposal on grounds that there is no direct path to citizenship. Also I would like to add that it is wrong to say such disrespectful things about them based on speculation. I don't disrespect Rubio when I speculate that he is going to serve out a really strict proposal pandering to the Tea party, which we all despise. So please have some decency. If when it does come out and she votes against it say whatever you want, but right now she hasn't done us wrong. She is merely fighting for the original DREAM act.

Originally Posted by Smooth

Are you kidding me? Votes against it? Dude, when is the last time you took American Government? She is not even in congress.

As for the school and military, wouldn't Rubio's idea allow you to pursue that path?

What you need to do is kick back. I am not going to respect anyone who is trying to politicize the issue for political gain. She is already slamming an alternative that could possibly be fair. Her rhetoric is wrong and can influence the way things play out. Read Plato's work on plebiscitary rhetoric. So, you should contact your lady and ask her to have some decency as well. Tell her to stop contributing the politicization of our lives. It's ok if she wants to defend the original DA. But, she shouldn't fuck us over by wiping her ass with an idea that could result in bipartisan relief.

Originally Posted by Kevin1is7lucky

If she has no vote then why does her opinion even warrant such verbal abuse? True I didn't know who she was, but I'm referring to the amount of disrespect you show her. This is politics and that is what is gonna happen. She isn't my lady just because I defend people doesn't me I support them. I just completely disagree with your method of rationalizing political works. She is entitled to her opinion whether or not you disagree. Your rhetoric is wrong and you can influence public opinion of dreamers.

Originally Posted by Smooth

Dude, get the fuck off my case. I have no patience or respect for someone who is trying to politicize the lives of so many of us who ARE GOING THROUGH FUCKING HELL. If you cannot understand that, there is something wrong with you. If you say I have no deceny, I say that you have no fucking brains for actually trying to defend someone who uses or is trying to use our fucking suffering for political gain or the benefit of her party.

Originally Posted by Smooth

Her rhetoric is wrong because it is deceitful (it does not coincide at all with Rubio's rhetoric) and it is delivered from a position of power. So, if she says something, it is highly likely that it will be listened to and accepted. You can view my rhetoric as wrong and disrespectful, but I am not going to respect anyone who is disrespecting us by trying to politicize our lives. That is disrespectful to me and all those I talk to and are going through fucking hell, and I will not apologize for what I wrote. You can kiss my rear-end if you don't like it.