Immigration Reform this Year? - Page 2
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Originally Posted by Jourbalist
Hillary's on our side too... She said CIR in the first 100 days of office.
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DEAR FRIENDS, There is a little bit of good news today. All of you who have been faxing and phoning all week are really having an impact. We are getting a lot of feedback that Democratic leaders in the House are getting discouraged by the huge outpouring of public disapproval of news that Speak Pelosi is considering a 5-year amnesty for most illegal aliens, plus huge increases in foreign worker visas. Also, Rep. Heath Shuler (D-N.C.) is standing firm in the face of tremendous pressures from within his Party to make compromises. We now have 48 House Democrats standing against Pelosi and her open-borders wing of the Democratic Party -- 48 Democrats signed on to Shuler's SAVE Act (H.R. 408 that would have three layers of employment verification that would effectively drive most illegal aliens out of American jobs. But at the moment of greatest opportunity, it is the REPUBLICAN leaders in the House who are holding things up. If they would get behind a Discharge Petition (that would force a vote on H.R. 4088 on the House floor), there now appear enough Democrats to get the 218 required signatures. In other words, the minority Party could force a vote. But the Republican House leaders are dragging their feet out of various petty political considerations and perhaps as a favor to the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. Already 90 House Republicans have signed H.R. 4088, led by Rep. Brian Bilbray (R-Calif.), the chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus. Friends, this is not the time to let up. Rep. Shuler believes he has a chance to pass this great enforcement bill to truly reduce the illegal population in our communities |
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Originally Posted by K-Man
Who gives a shit about the CIR??? It's not gonna pass anytime soon, whereas DREAM actually has a chance. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!! christ... |
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Originally Posted by Jourbalist
I certainly do give a "shit" about CIR because I really want my parents to be legalized along with me. They don't qualify for Dream and I'd prefer CIR over Dream any day. We also need to think about the exploited workers, border security, and all that jazz. CIR will pass eventually. Dream wasn't going to be passed this October, that vote was for cloture.
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DREAM has a MUCH, MUCH better chance at passage than CIR does, and I honestly don't see CIR happening anytime soon, no matter all the hoopla that has surrounded it. With DREAM, we would at least be able to make things easier for our other family members in the meantime, instead of having no one legalized and suffering for even longer.
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Originally Posted by free2be
I don't think it's a matter of "CIR or DREAM," rather which one will be brought up before the other. Of course we all want our parents and other family who don't qualify for DREAM to be legalized, but we are at pivotal points in our lives and don't really have much more time to get the ball rolling, so relatively, it could be argued our parents have a bit more "wiggle room" as far as time goes (Huge, Broad Generalization, so don't jump down my throat anyone).
DREAM has a MUCH, MUCH better chance at passage than CIR does, and I honestly don't see CIR happening anytime soon, no matter all the hoopla that has surrounded it. With DREAM, we would at least be able to make things easier for our other family members in the meantime, instead of having no one legalized and suffering for even longer. |
im just gonna quote you cuz this is exactly what i was going to write
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Originally Posted by free2be
I don't think it's a matter of "CIR or DREAM," rather which one will be brought up before the other. Of course we all want our parents and other family who don't qualify for DREAM to be legalized, but we are at pivotal points in our lives and don't really have much more time to get the ball rolling, so relatively, it could be argued our parents have a bit more "wiggle room" as far as time goes (Huge, Broad Generalization, so don't jump down my throat anyone).
DREAM has a MUCH, MUCH better chance at passage than CIR does, and I honestly don't see CIR happening anytime soon, no matter all the hoopla that has surrounded it. With DREAM, we would at least be able to make things easier for our other family members in the meantime, instead of having no one legalized and suffering for even longer. |
For me personally, if Dream passes, that would be the happiest day of my life. If not, then I'm not going to be sad about it and just wait for CIR to come around or for me to finish my degrees.
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Originally Posted by Jourbalist
I certainly do give a "shit" about CIR because I really want my parents to be legalized along with me. They don't qualify for Dream and I'd prefer CIR over Dream any day. We also need to think about the exploited workers, border security, and all that jazz. CIR will pass eventually. Dream wasn't going to be passed this October, that vote was for cloture.
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I'm just making a point that we should dedicate 100% of our resources for Dream, and not waste it on CIR that will get debated over and over.
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Originally Posted by Jourbalist
Yes, I agree with you. I was just telling k-man here that someone does give a "shit" about CIR, not just Dream.
For me personally, if Dream passes, that would be the happiest day of my life. If not, then I'm not going to be sad about it and just wait for CIR to come around or for me to finish my degrees. |
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