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I take less units and work two jobs. My jobs gives me a lot of tip, so women do have a leg up in this situation. I'm frugal, don't spend too much other than necessities and take good care of my belongings. I ride the bus every morning for 2 hours to make it to school. I qualify for the AB540 and pay my tuition in installments every quarter. I room with multiple people and we don't have a common room. It's not rocket science.

I have a friend who teaches at a high school, and she makes much more than $60,000. What nonsense are you spouting? There are instructors at her school who have already reached millions as well. The difference between an ADN and a teacher is tenure and increased salary as the years go by.

Again, what marketable skills do older DREAMers have that the younger lack? Employers won't give a flying thought about how many years they waited tables for. And please explain where you get the idea that every DREAMer will be able to easily find cosigners for loans.

Edit: Just curious, what type of jobs do you DREAMers hold right now?

Oh snap! There's some drama up in here.
It's really not that serious. worry about the situation you're in and about the dream act. All this preaching is reminiscent of those that shall not be named! lol

That's funny, because I was referring to that exact clip!

Judy wanted to say you are dead on about everything. And I hate how once sided the conversation becomes sometimes...I'd hate for people to get legalized, and one day work to take away everyone's freedom of speech and freedom to debate. I think that's the reason why the Dream Act keeps stalling...people want to preach to the choir, post articles from favorable websites, and attack ones that disagree. Maybe if people were more open to debate and free speech, the bill could have been fixed earlier than it was. Should have been listening to the other side's criticisms of it and adapt on the fly. Plus, I think the tactics of holding up traffic and hunger strikes and barging into the offices of Senators and getting arrested has been totally counterproductive. Every senator that these tactics have been tried on has decided to vote no so far. Too much time has been focused on Senators who would vote no, then Senators who are genuinely undecided.
So yes, I am glad you get it. And yes, people who are over 30 who get legalized aren't magically going to get jobs here and live happily ever after, just ask any miserable 30 year old unemployed US Citizen. I'll leave too if I come close to meeting that age.

I saw gwone is right, most teachers don't make more then 60k per year, that was the point of his post, it does not matter that you happen to know a friend that good a good teacher salary in a high school. In the state of Florida average teacher salary is about 43k, that means half make less then that and half make more then that.

I will concede this though... it is possible to get paid more then a college professor under the kind of pay scale that they use after more then a decade working for the district, and because there is a very strong teachers union it becomes so expensive to fire an incompetent teacher that firing is essentially only reserved for teachers that commit really heinous crimes. How fast you get to the upper pay scale may also depend on what kind of degree you hold, a teacher with a doctorate starts at a higher pay scale and gets to the max pay scale much faster then a teacher that only has a BS degree.

but seriously... wow, at the drama of this thread. The thread started well on the first post but went downhill fast.

Why don't you people put yourselves in the shoes of those that you are trying to insult, while you are doing that take into consideration that they come from different countries that may have different problems and different kinds of opportunities. Job placement is not always fair in some of those countries. Sometimes you need to know someone before you can secure even a rather mediocre position, and we are people that have essentially lived away from those countries, we don't all know how they operate.

I know someone from my country of origin, just graduated with an industrial psychology degree, starting salary is about 7k per year... that is twice the average salary in my country. No way I am going back to that country in those conditions. Just because you get paid less does not mean that goods cost less, only that labor is very cheap.

I thank the older dreamers for all the support that they have done, but I reproach the minority that have made a huge deal about lowering the age. The DREAM Act needs to pass, if it does not pass in the manner it is written right now you can pretty much bet that more and more people will be disqualified from the dream act in future versions and that will mean a less people that understand the struggle and can lend a stronger voice as dreamers with legal status to push for future immigration reform, and to represent the real potential of reform to the economy.

we should really try to focus on getting registered voters to call for our cause.

We have spent too much time targeting the hispanic community, but this is not a hispanic problem, this is an international problem. As far as I am concerned we have members in this group from every countinent in the world, except of course antartica, we have people from a very wide variety of cultural backgrounds.

I am in complete agreement with OP. Keep in mind that they have been fighting this battle longer than we have. And to be so close to victory, but at the very last second being stripped of everything they have been fighting so hard for all their life... well, I can only imagine the utter despair they must be feeling.

We need to call our Senators and let them about the 30-34 ages and also the original Retro if they are going to keep the age. Hutchinson and Hatch oppose the new DA version. They votes Yay in the 2007 when the original Dreamers did qualify.

I never wanted the Dream Act to fail. I am them to add back the real Retroactive benefits. The longer it takes the Dream to pass, the closer we are to CIR.

No, you have said that we should shelve this version of the DREAM until next year because the Republicans will pass CIR.