United We Dream Rejects Trump’s New White Supremacist Immigration Plan - Page 2

Okay. Elaborate on how Trump and Republican controlled Congress is simply is going to give 11 million undocumented immigrants a free pass without getting anything in return.

This is not about trading our souls or humanity. This is about being realistic in the current political climate. How many years has it been debated about doing something for illegal immigrants yet nothing has came to pass? 10 years? 20 years? Would you truly rather have everyone in the shadows instead? I rather stop worrying about my status and be able help my undocumented family than have everyone worrying about the future.

More money for detention centers =/= mass deportation for millions of people.

I agree with you 100% but unfortunately, their voices are a lot louder than ours!

1. You want UWD to stop speaking for you? By all means get off your computer, go to some type of event and speak for yourself? Lets not forget that its thanks to activist/organizations like UWD, CASA, and CHIRLA that we even have DACA to begin with! While I don't agree with your willingness of throwing our community under the bus to get a GC, I do believe you have a right to make it known that you don't agree. I believe you should speak up. But stop complaining about it and get yourself a platform so we can stop hearing all of you whine about them speaking for you. Go to a march, go to a rally, set up visits with legislators/media. Just stop complaining because at the end of the day they're doing something, while you're just watching.

2. I can not believe how quick some of you DREAMers are to turn your back on your own community. I get it we don't want to go back to the shadows, you're afraid of losing all that you've worked hard for. And I completely get the support for a step by step approach. You want to attach DA to a border wall funding bill by all means, try it. I am all for negotiating and compromising for some type of permanent status. Most of you believe should be done step by step, legalize DREAMers 1st and then use the momentum to do more. But being ok with attaching DA to fund more detention centers, more ICE agents, etc things we KNOW will be used to deport our family and community that's disgusting. These are people who have been here just as long as you have, have worked just as hard as you have, who are just as afraid as you are, who may have missed the DACA cut off dates by mere weeks!
Honestly, some of you surprise me with the lack of empathy. Your willingness to throw someone off the ladder, so you can go one rung higher.
We, DREAMers, ask this country, its people, and its legislator to show us compassion yet half of us have none for our own community...

But the problem is many activist groups won't even accept the idea of a compromise to begin with, even if its just the border wall. That's my gripe. You can't even mention "well lets try to figure out a reasonable middle ground" without people claiming that we're throwing our community under the bus when nothing has even been debated yet. It's naive.

For example, exchanging the Dream Act for border security funding does not affect any of the undocumented community within the country already. Of course, adding more deportation centers and ICE agents is a high asking price for just the Dream Act. I get that. It's just the fact that some Democrats and activists are flatout rejecting it any idea of a deal as opposed to at least try and negotiate something reasonable with Republics is stupid.

Here's my theory or perspective, what ever you want to call it. At the end of the day we all know that ANY immigration related bill, be it Border Wall Funding, DA, CIR, etc will always be negotiated and amended. This is simply the way our legislative system works. So if you are a Dem and you know your broad all encompassing bill is going to be carved down, you don't want the other side to know just how much of your bill you're willing to lose. So these organizations and democrats announcing we will not be bargaining chips need to not be taken so literally, it political strategy. Now I will contend that for some items, such as increased funding of detention centers, increased funding of ICE agents, we should most definitely not be used to negotiate. But democrats and the advocacy orgs are not naïve, they know they will have to negotiate and compromise in order to pass anything. But you take a hardliner stance on the compromise piece, so that once you do actually lose some of your bill and negotiate it seems like a bigger win for Republicans than what it actually is. Now your broad bill is whittled down to something your ok with, but the other side doesn't need to know how far you were prepared to narrow down your bill to begin with.

As expected. Hope nobody cares for their acceptance.

"My parents recognize their mistake coming and staying here illegally. They feel terrible for it. They are ready to go back to their country if it doesn't work out for them. "--That is such a fucking hypocritical and self serving statement. If they recognise that they made a mistake bringing you here illegally, then hop your way back. That's the true principle. You're the product of that mistake right? Then go back to your country of birth based on the principle that your parents are going back for.

My gosh. The amount of people putting their tails between their legs and saying save us, screw the rest. We owe it to those who started this fight, to right it for them.

How are we supposed to help out? What power do we have? Instead of trying to guilt us into feeling like we're being selfish, lay out your grand plan to give every undocumented alien legal status, because I still haven't heard a good one.

Dude I don't know what country you're living in..there is no mass deportations going on right now. There is literally no change in my state. I travel throughout the state and parts of the region on a frequent basis. Stop scaring other people and lying that there will be mass deportations.