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Dreamer at USC needs your help - Page 2

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#11
10-03-2017, 07:27 PM
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So surprising how judgmental people are on this forum. You guys are no better than many trump supporters who spout ignorance about us without knowing the details of our situation. Here's some info to help you understand:

1. Clinical social workers are high in demand, low in supply, and get paid decently (>70k yearly in CA). Given the percentage of the population in America with mental ailments, I would argue that pursuing this field is very "productive."

2. It's a top 10 school in her field (and many others) according to several respected rankings. It's tough to "compromise" when you've worked your ass off and been accepted to your dream school. I went through the same thing, was accepted to UC Berkeley in 2010 and didn't have enough money to pay for it (there was no California dream act back then). People who understood my situation helped me pay through my first year of school and I've since paid it back by helping younger college-bound kids as well as donating to non-profit college funds.

3. She has since applied for scholarships from the school which end up covering almost half of tuition. She can't get subsidized loans so she's just asking so she can cover interest while in school and not drown in debt.

I find most of these responses very depressing. The reason some social/ethnic groups like the Jewish community do really well is that they stick together and help each other out. The dreamer/undocumented-immigrant community likewise could benefit from the same type of collaboration. Helping one of us progress helps the rest of us out as well.

This mentality you guys have is holding all of us back.
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10-03-2017, 07:39 PM
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So surprising how judgmental people are on this forum. You guys are no better than many trump supporters who spout ignorance about us without knowing the details of our situation.

I find most of these responses very depressing. The reason some social/ethnic groups like the Jewish community do really well is that they stick together and help each other out. The dreamer/undocumented-immigrant community likewise could benefit from the same type of collaboration. Helping one of us progress helps the rest of us out as well.

This mentality you guys have is holding all of us back
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what do u expect? a portion of this forum supports Trump, are conservatives and feel superior to refugees and other undocumented groups.
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10-03-2017, 08:58 PM
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what do u expect? a portion of this forum supports Trump, are conservatives and feel superior to refugees and other undocumented groups.
this is just my thought... but don't we as undocumented people have access to less resources, and subsequently less resources to give away? I mean our DACA is set to expire... why wouldn't we all be saving as much as we can, just in case we are no longer able to work?
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10-03-2017, 10:31 PM
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this is just my thought... but don't we as undocumented people have access to less resources, and subsequently less resources to give away? I mean our DACA is set to expire... why wouldn't we all be saving as much as we can, just in case we are no longer able to work?
Some dreamers are now well-off thanks to DACA. If a person can't contribute that's fine, but there's no reason to make assumptions and pass judgement on a person. It's completely unnecessary.
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10-03-2017, 11:20 PM
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Some dreamers are now well-off thanks to DACA. If a person can't contribute that's fine, but there's no reason to make assumptions and pass judgement on a person. It's completely unnecessary.
I don't disagree that some of us doing well for ourselves. However, please do define "well-off." Sure there may be a very small percentage of DACAer that are in the 1%, however, I doubt they visit this messageboard. Even so, I know to some of my co-workers, "well-off" means having a nice house and not living paycheck to paycheck. To others, that's status quo and "well-off" means something entirely different.

As for the "assumptions and pass judgement" comment. Please let me know how I made any assumptions or especially passed judgement on anyone. I was merely pointing out the fact that this might be an un-opportune time to ask for donations, considering all of our legal and consequently, financial situations are uncertain. If that bothers you, I think you need to grow some thicker skin.

Lastly, I did read through her story, and while I am touched that she has such a deep passion to help others, a passion I share, I do not understand how she is unable to reach her dream. She has secured the finances to attend USC, however this gofundme is there to offset the interest from her loans. If I misinterpreted her page, please let me know; however please refrain from accusing anyone of assumptions or passing judgement without substantive quotes.
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10-03-2017, 11:43 PM
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I don't disagree that some of us doing well for ourselves. However, please do define "well-off." Sure there may be a very small percentage of DACAer that are in the 1%, however, I doubt they visit this messageboard. Even so, I know to some of my co-workers, "well-off" means having a nice house and not living paycheck to paycheck. To others, that's status quo and "well-off" means something entirely different.

As for the "assumptions and pass judgement" comment. Please let me know how I made any assumptions or especially passed judgement on anyone. I was merely pointing out the fact that this might be an un-opportune time to ask for donations, considering all of our legal and consequently, financial situations are uncertain. If that bothers you, I think you need to grow some thicker skin.

Lastly, I did read through her story, and while I am touched that she has such a deep passion to help others, a passion I share, I do not understand how she is unable to reach her dream. She has secured the finances to attend USC, however this gofundme is there to offset the interest from her loans. If I misinterpreted her page, please let me know; however please refrain from accusing anyone of assumptions or passing judgement without substantive quotes.
By well-off, I mean top 20% of income earners in the U.S. There are many dreamers in this bracket, and many that I met on this forum that privately pledged to donate some money.

Regarding passing judgment, I was not referring to your comments, but to other ugly comments in the thread calling into question this dreamer's work ethic and integrity.
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10-04-2017, 01:04 AM
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I had the choice of attending a higher ranked doctoral program. However, I accepted a lower offer because I was offered money. Just saying. I wouldn't spend (for me would have been 45k/year for 5 years) for the degree.

I don't think my previous comments were negative. I was just stating facts that may apply to anyone, even me.
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I don’t see why she would put herself in that predicament. I invested on a 2 year community college career that has paid itself many times over. That’s with paying out of state tuition and no help. I did get help on the books but other than that it was all me. Was it my dream school and career? No, but it was cheaper and had a great return. Don’t we all wish we could do everything we dream of? Reality hits pretty damn hard sometimes.

Don’t go over your head, be realistic based on your current situation.
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10-04-2017, 08:32 AM
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I don’t see why she would put herself in that predicament. I invested on a 2 year community college career that has paid itself many times over. That’s with paying out of state tuition and no help. I did get help on the books but other than that it was all me. Was it my dream school and career? No, but it was cheaper and had a great return. Don’t we all wish we could do everything we dream of? Reality hits pretty damn hard sometimes.

Don’t go over your head, be realistic based on your current situation.
I agree with you. I started out in a community college just like your. I did not go to my dream school but finished with no debt. It is really hard for me to relate to her or feel sympathy for her. I just dont think her decision is financially responsible.
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She should not get funding.. she should work a few years and then do it.

I funded my entire B.S and Master's. It is called patience. Education is not a privilege in this country. It is something you fight for.
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